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| 名詞 | レア度 | 運命 | 戦闘属性 | 攻撃力 | 防御力 | HP | 昇格素材 | |
 | ホタル | 5 | destruction-class | fire-damage_type | 756.76 | 776.16 | 814.97 |      |
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| 名詞 | レア度 | 運命 | 攻撃力 | 防御力 | HP | 戦闘スキル | 昇格素材 | |
 | 止まらない計算 | 5 | erudition-class | 529.2 | 396.9 | 1058.4 | 装備キャラの攻撃力+ |  |
 | 夢はどこへ帰るべきか | 5 | destruction-class | 635.04 | 529.2 | 846.72 | 装備キャラの撃破特効+ | |
 | よりによって希望は無価 | 5 | erudition-class | 582.12 | 529.2 | 952.56 | 装備キャラの会心率+ | |
 | 調和が沈黙した後 | 4 | erudition-class | 476.28 | 396.9 | 846.72 | 装備キャラの撃破特効+ | |
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 | 蝗害一掃せし機械騎士 | 2件: 撃破特効+ 4件: 装備キャラの撃破特効が |
 | 風吹き雲飛ぶ勇烈 | 2件: 攻撃力+ 4件: 装備キャラが必殺技または追加攻撃を発動する時、装備キャラの与ダメージ+ |
 | 奔狼の都藍王朝 | 2件: 味方が追加攻撃を行った時、装備キャラが「勲功」を1層獲得する。最大で |
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163 responses to “New in 2.3”
i wonder if this new 4 piece follow-up set works with Robin’s ult? i’m not sure if the attacks Robin deals during her ultimate count as follow-up attacks
They’re additional DMG not follow-ups
sadly no
not counts
they know their stuff far better than you Lil bro
Oh I just realised I can take memories off Ruan Mei and she’ll still get 180 BE because of HTB
That’s nice until I get a 2nd copy
How bad is your Ruan Mei if you need Harmony Trailblazer to reach 180 BR…..
if you have a bit more than a reading comprehension of a 4th grader
he said that ruan mei will still hit 180 BE even if he put memories on HTB
With memories she has 200ish BE with an ERR rope
Without memories it drops to abt 150 same build
Then obv with Harmony TB she gets boosted back up
I have now realised I only need 160 out of combat
Her stats are 139 spd, 41.1% Effect res and 169% Break Effect
The new Prydwen tierlist pfft… what a bunch of clowns
I’d really like to see the meeting where someone argued, a DPS and 2 sustains, are better than any 3 of the current Harmonies
Where a theory crafter placed Topaz over Seele and Silverwolf over Pela. Argenti is NOT at the very top of Pure Fiction? Just look at the tier Pela is placed into, among utter %rash, does she not stand out like a sore thumb tff?
I’m also incredibly takem aback by how many chars are simply ignored. Why hasn’t march 7th moved up? Both Robin and Acheron are great synergies for her. Why is Hook and Wind DH in the same tier as Herta??
It’s laughably hillarious, biased and unresearched. It comes across as feels crafting and incredibly unprofessional
Acheron above Argenti in PF??
Also the UI alterations feel like a downgrade, too much useless info and idk what the green words even mean
Speaking of those words why has Aventurine not got shield listed
But yeah how did anyone look at the roster and decide the limited harmonies aren’t the most broken units in the game
So the green words are pros
Then why is Aventurine’s only pro SP, are a debuff. and FuA not good enough??
Both Blade and Jingliu are tagged SP+ which is misleading since they don’t actually generate any SP
Every character with a buff has it in green but debuffs get different treatment
Acheron has no cons listed
There is 0 mention of Kafka’s detonation or DoT enabling
None of the sustainer have healing or shielding listed, I feel like specifying who does which is important
All random things to do with the tags I don’t like
the green tags are things you need to keep in mind, mostly like ” hey, this character either generatesmore SP or (for dps) doesnt use that much SP compared to others specificaly IN THIS CATEGORY. ” or “hey, this character can delay the enemy more so you can have more action in return.”
reading everthing in the section above is important because they explain every thing a bit better but they do not explain every single little thing. you have to click on every character individually to get a better picture.
the gray tags are used to mark their archetypes or to emphasize in what kind of team they work best, like SW being a debuffer and pretty much enable you to run other characters that need a lot of debuffs to be use more efficiently.
i do completely agree that a lot of the placements and how everything is put up there like the tags are confusing AF but also keep in mind, these are just content creators mostly that made the list. mostly to help people who struggle or are still a bit early in the game and want to build a character to get a better overview in one glance on what characters are either good at or whether they are worth to build or not for the current MoC.
everyone has their own interpretations of tier lists because of either own biases or experiences. i personally do not have DHIL so i wouldn’t know if he should be up there but apparently for people ,that do use him a lot, do think he should be up there.
Prydwns list is also centered around the Current MoC, so some characters that can proc the MoC buff are usually better.
if i had to make some changes ( from my experience in my friend group playing this game ) on the MoC side, i would put Pela at least T1 and SW on the same tier or one higher because she makes MoC 12 first half so much easier, when it come to ALL of MoC, i do not know if SW deserves to be in the T0 side of the list.
besides that, i largely do not use the characters in the T3 to T5 tier because i do not have them build besides Welt and GuiNaiFen, i would probably have Argenti be up at least 1 tier, my friend has a OK Argentie but he is putting in work for the most part.
I would put XueYi up 1 tier, Sampo down one, Gui up one, Asta up one and Kafka up to T0 because she made the whole DoT achretype Viable and actually pretty strong.
Aventurine will probably stay in T0 but i would pull Fu Xuan down to T0.5 because of the MoC buff she cant stack that well comparied to Aventurine.
sustaining Capabilities are pretty much the same to me.
that will probably be it. what i don’t like about people is that, they think the difference between T0 and T0.5 is a massive gap ( this is only true when it comes to Acheron compaired to the rest of the roster). the reason why Ruan Mei isn’t up in T0 is because she is competing with Sparkle and now Robin as well for that spot. T0 is for characters that are litteraly the best in the game but when you play with all 3 of these characters, non of them are clearly better then the other, they cant make one be higher up because they pretty much have to pull the other 2 up as well because their powers are so closely matched.
Sparkle makes your hypercarry teams absolutely insane.
Ruan Mei enables Duo-DPS and have break character be more efficient.
Robin also Enables Duo-DPS and follow-up to have another action without losing damage in the progress.
at the end of the day, it quite frankly doesn’t matter what the list actually says, if you do not find it applicable to you, then don’t use it.
if you do find it usefull because you have been struggling, then use the list till you figure out for yourself how the game does things and what works.
i largely agree with the list but there are a LOT of things that need more clarification and some shifting around if you also look at the general playerbase.
I think the main reason people are against it when it makes mistakes in the tierlist so much is how much power it holds among the playerbase. Like so many people use it as the all or nothing god of information when discussing or arguing about characters and that just leads to a cycle of misinformation.
At least that’s from what I am able to gather. I still use them for builds so they aren’t all bad but they aren’t perfect either
It’s not based on the current Moc:
” These tier lists rate characters based on their average performance in both Memory of Chaos and Pure Fiction regardless of turbulence”
If it were, it would be even more egregious. I doubt you’d wanna see Misha overtake most 5 star DPSes. Youkong, Welt, Ruan Mei and Xueyi would be buffed to new heights, as they are sorta mandatory for dealing with the weakness dyno. Certainly not as low as they are, for the current MoC
I agree that the prydwen tier list is ass, but do keep in mind units are only ranked within their respective category.
So no one compared Acheron or Aventurine to RM, Robin and Sparkle.
No one reads the sticky note (I did but)
You wouldn’t be looking at a tierlist if you were interested in nuance
Not making it obvious the 3 best characters in the game are well… the best in the game is clearly on them. They could have at the very least bumped RM to T0 and call it a day
Tier lists are made for casuals who don’t want to think too much, they’ll just see 3 amazing harmonies a tier below Acheron and tbh probably use that as ammo to be annoying
I just look at it, Aventurine and Fu xuan in T0 while the 3 current top Harmony is in T0.5 is big brain … XD?
WOW YOU GUYS HATE PRYDWEN YOU NO GOOD IGNORANT LITTLE SH-
I stopped caring about that tierlist tbh I mainly use them for build guides when I’m feeling lazy. If I listened to their tierlists, my teams would be filled with Misery 😀
Maybe the fact this is the second time they revamp it should tell them something…
the list is fine, they know their stuff far better than you I would say
Yesterday there were Firefly animations, and now they are gone. What happened?
Today there are still Firefly animations
Tomorrow there will still be…
Firefly animations
I found out what happened, they only displayed when you were logged in
Is Beta started or is This early info?
This is beta info
Maybe its too early to ask, but does anyone know how well Firefly will work in PF? Even if it’s just theory work, I’d like to know because I plan for E1S1 and if she’s no good for PF then I need to get Jade/Argenti which might make E1S1 hard to get. Thank you in advance
shes kinda bad for pf since her kit revolves around her 240 energy ult. she whould be an S+ tier if not the fact that after clearing a wave the ult countdown doesnt reset like in MoC i think that Jade will be the must have for guaranted 40k point but remember that firefly will outdmg her in every other mode
I see, I don’t have any characters for my 2nd PF team so I haven’t cleared past stage three, with only 2 stars on it. Guess I’ll get Jade and Firefly, since they’ll share a simu world and a cavern
I forgot to mention I have IMG DPSes only which I want Firefly aswell
I don’t see any AoE attack on Firefly so I would compare her with Jingliu but fire. My Jingliu struggles in PF because if you can’t kill everything on the screen in one go, that’s one turn wasted. At any other mode, she slays no problem.
So uhh is Apocalyptic Shadow coming next patch, in 2.3?
Yeah, along with the new Sim U that lets us farm Planars much quicker!
can someone tell me who these new sets are good for? and who can use the new sim universe LC?
The AS is confirmed to have a weakness & breaking theme. Each boss here have high intake damage negation when not broken and becomes glass made when weakness broken, meaning you may not be able to brute-force with a DPS of wrong element type. They also have way higher HP than before and even have 3 phases for you to deal with. Luckily they have one additional weakness type than usual, showing their mercy to low spenders’ accounts. Note that the bosses do not die themselves just by breaking, you still need a proper damage source to finish them off.
God tier units in this format: Silver Wolf, Boothill, Firefly, and Ruan Mei.
Yes tier units in this format: DPS with considerable toughness damage and of the element types of the corresponding weakness.
Nah tier units in this format: DPS with mediocre toughness damage or of the wrong element types.
Bounce Brigade, Rise Up!
Don’t discard Robin and Bronya. Double the turns means double the breaking. There was a video a while back of Boothill clearing in the same speed with either Ruan Mei or Robin, because ultimately you get the same amount of break, just a “different formula”
Gallagher especially and Aventurine can output a lot of Single Target break.
You know why? That’s because Boothill’s damage is too high that pairing him with the Harmony Trailblazer is like a dragonslayer without a dragon to slay. However this is not the case of Firefly. Firefly has no meaningful payoff for breaking at all and she deals a chunk of regular break damage only once. Afterwards she sucks.
Also, the AS has a mechanic that is similar to PF. There is a base buff and you choose an additional buff among three options. This mode will be pretty easy for the first few seasons, just like PF.
Let’s go, easy jades.
The base buff is super powerful to a degree that it looks like simu. When the primary boss’s toughness bar is broken, your team’s SP is fully restocked and your team members’ ultimates are fully charged, allowing a satisfying pummeling.
SW value going up, lessgo
I hope we will get a new SU challenge
Divergent Universe is in 2.3 isn’t it?
divergent SU is the faster SU clear i think? or is it a different one than that?
It’s that special mode that lets you farm planars much quicker so I guess ya
I mean a new mode is a new mode
I assume the new enemies are AS variants of the boss summons but… why are they different?
Different stats I presume? Not quite sure tbh