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1. Can anyone think of a reliable way to 3 turn her ult at 130 cost?
   As far as I can calculate, without outside help (such as energy from Abundance units) it seems basically impossible to achieve that within her own build at E0.
   The only semi-reliable way I have found is using Tutorial Mission, 124.4% energy, Meteor 4 piece, but it still has 2 variable conditions that you can quite easily miss.
   – the cycle follows: ult -> skill -> basic -> basic -> ult.

   5+8 -> 30 -> (20+8)*2 = 99
   99 + 3 + 3 (two procs of Meteor 4pc) = 105
   105*124.4% = 130.62 energy

   The issue is it requires Fugue to:
   1. hit an enemy with def down with all 3 of her offensive attacks (ult, and 2 basics) which, as it’s reliant on another ally to apply the def down – is unreliable, as it’s possible for all the debuffed enemies to die before Fugue’s turn.
   2. Fugue herself needs to break 2 enemies within that 3 turn cycle for the Meteor 4pc procs (which is slightly more likely than usual due to her Exo toughness mechanic, but it’s still unreliable.)

   The energy cost reduction is huge, but it just feels like we went from 5-6 turn ult rotations to having the ability to reliably 4 turn WITH energy investment, which still isn’t great considering what her ult does. Maybe her basic attacks make up for it more than we think? not sure~

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   • at e0, it doesn’t seem worth the effort. all her ult does is damage (before e2 anyway), and that’s going to come from her Break Effect stat anyway. I’d rather have the 100 BE from a break Rope and Forge of Kopali Lantern than the energy rope and energy set you seem to be using in your calcs.

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   • It doesn’t seem worh doing to me. Remember that all Fugue’s ult does (before E2, but that’s also a big source of Energy for her…) is damage, and all that damage is through break and superbreak (it might as well not have the atk scaling and just say “does 60 toughness damage to all enemies”). You’re giving up all the “scaling stat” you’d get from a Break rope, the forge planar set, a BE lightcone (even just Solitary Healing) and the def ignore from the iron cavalry 4 piece to nuke a little more often instead. The tradeoff doesn’t seem worth it. You’re better off with the much bigger nuke.

     It’s not like her ult is giving buffs that you want uptime on.

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   • god damnit, it kept the first one after all. took forever to get looked at and approved.

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2. if I put Fugue and HMC in the same team does the effect of Fugue talent and HMC ult stacked or one of them override the other?

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   • It stacks additively. But it’s not as good as you’re thinking it to be. Think of it like this.

     HMC SB – 150k damage bonus on top of everything else.

     Fugue SB – 150k damage bonus on top of everything else.

     The thing is, RM and Lingsha have buffs that stack multiplicatively. RM at E1 fort example is a 2x buff for SB damage. What this means is.

     HMC + Fugue = RM + Fugue. The issue is, RM offers way more than HMC does in other ways like breaking enemies faster, delaying the enemies recovery massively and being SP positive.

     Lingsha is a simular story at if you have her LC> If you have her at E1 however she straight up beasts HMC.

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3. So I use an e2 firefly with e1 ruan mei traveler and gallager. At e0 is she worth it on this team to replace gallager? or better to save for 3.0

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   • How is this even a serious question. She’d replace anyone on that name other than Firefly and it would do 2x better. Her exo break allows Firefly E2 to proc as well…

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4. So from my perspective, if you want to run 2 break teams. something like this
   – Boothill, Bronya, Fugue, +1
   – FF, HMC, RM, +1

   I think E1 is better than S1 right? because:
   1. She has no BE scaling in her kit, basically only need EHR and SPD
   2. You can’t split RM so the break efficiency is much more valuable than the 40% break vuln. for the team without RM

   Unless your gonna run her with RM anyway then S1 > E1. What do you think?

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5. So before tutorial with ERR good now? She probably will not hit 250% break effect tho…

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6. Pretty big changes with V3.

   Her skill now allows the effected ally to break regardless of weakness type at 50% efficiency. This cannot stack with others of the same effect. Aka Rappa can’t get to 100% from this. Also the amount of exo toughness the enemies gain when broken has been reduced to 40% to make breaking them again easier. This is great for most chars and even helps with Firefly’s none enhanced attacks.

   Her ult cost has been reduced to 130. Still hoping for a toughness boost as well though.

   The EHR% boost from her traces and been turned into speed, 14 total.

   Her 3rd trace has been changed from 15% BE per stack to 8+16% BE if she has 250% BE or more. Total going from 30% to 48% which is pretty nice.

   E2 Has been nerfed to 3 energy gain per break from 5. Probably due to the decreased ult cost.

   E4 Has either changed or gained a new effect. The ally effected by the skill will gain another 20% break damage bonus.

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   • Is it worth getting her for someone who only has the Firefly team?

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     • Yes. Infact with Fugue even Lingsha can be a DPS now.

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     • i will get her for my runmei, hmc, firefly, galagher team and replay hmc with her because aoe break without limitation of fireflys singletarget fire imp and x2 breaks (exo toughnes) is nuts.
       + i have firefly e2 so breaks without end on first turn.

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   • if her weakness ignore buff cannot stack then whats the point of it? i dont understand what they are doing with her kit

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     • ? Not everyone has the ability to break enemies regardless of weakness type. So far only Firefly in her buffed state, Rappa and Fugue can do it. This buff allows anyone to do it. Boothill without using his ult, Firefly outside of her Enhanced state. Lingsha ect ect.

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   • her e2 energy gain iseffected by energyregeneration they say on reddit, before v3 it was not.

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   • I’m glad that HYV buffed her up. Still, I hope it could be better. The unstackable colorless break only benefits BH. And even that, it doesn’t solve his main problem.

     I wish it is further buffed to something like along these lines:
     – Stackable with other colorless break
     – If only one target hit, 100% Toughness Reduction
     – If > 1 targets hit, 50% Toughness Reduction.

     This way, all three Break dps can benefit from her.

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     • I mean it helps every non-break focused dps to fit better into a break team (particularly, Himeko, Luka, Misha, Serval seem to be varyingly popular ones).

       And as for break scaling dps, you did miss someone – Xueyi, her biggest issue is being walled by non-quantum weak enemies, as without her ult, she can’t really trigger the follow up from her talent, which really hurts her dps – so with that + exo toughness, it’s safe to say she’s loving Fugue after this change~ :3

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       • My apologies for forgetting Xueyi 😅

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     • ? She’s already the best by far but you want to make her literally 3x better? Please get out.

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       • Nope :p

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   • Sorry if I’m just being dumb, but could you explain the skill a bit more, please? Is it the same or similar to weakness break efficiency or not? But if it is, will it stack with her E1?

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   • “Her skill now allows the effected ally to break regardless of weakness type at 50% efficiency.”
     Xueyi mains went viral after that one)

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   • “Her skill now allows the effected ally to break regardless of weakness type at 50% efficiency.”
     Xueyi mains went viral after that one)

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7. Is her LC at must or I can go with the Herta shop or Resolution shine at pearls? Both S5, because I have a feeling that Firefly gets a rerun with her and I’m planning to get her LC.

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   • Pearls works fine if you have it

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8. Does this site show how much energy the ultimates for characters cost? I don’t see it under the skills tab

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   • Look under the “Stats” tab.

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     • Furthest right column

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       • appreciate it, thanks

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9. mega copium wishes for the changes in v3
   her E2 energy gain moves to one of her Traces and the adv forward changes to 50 or 100% (basically making her robin for break)
   her having a unlimited scaling shared BE for allies based on BE
   her getting bonus BE based on her EHR
   since her superbreak(100% at lvl 10 and 110% at level 12) is scaling based on skill level, then a increase where we get ~110% at level 10 and 150% at level 12
   additional things on her ult (currently its just a aoe dmg) probably vulnerability debuff because right now she buffs more than she debuff considering she is nihility

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   • 100% or even 50% adv would have been obscene and impossible to balance with it being locked behind E2. Her ult getting a debuff of some kind would be nice, as would a toughness damage boost (for v4).

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10. stop crying “she’s weak” because she’s not. It’s just a premium version of HMC. HMC is broken enough in his current state. If we release his much stronger version, this will be absurd. So Fugue is situational HMC replacement which is 5-10% peak better than him. I’m pretty sure this is fair.
    (BTW, her E1 is just unfair, break efficiency is too valuable in her comps. If you pull for E1, she skyrockets in value, now being able to replace both HMC and RM getting a huge damage increase in both cases.)

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    • she’s weak rn or are you too blind to see this fact? saw tons of fugue gameplay on YT and her cycle clear exactly the same with our free HMC which is weird. why people need to pull her if she can’t gives significant result than our free HMC? look dont get me wrong i also love fugue design, animation, except her kits. i also already pre-farmed for her complete. but if she dont get update on her final (v4/v5) then i better pull sunday which i dont even pre-farmed for him yet.

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      • that`s the catch: they are trying to “VS” her with HMC. this, of course, give us a false hope, that E0 Fugue is no valid, that we can choose other ways to improve Break team. Forgetting about “VS” her with Ruan Mei and the value of another 100% Super Break in total damage against +50% effective toughness damage.

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      • No way. Really? You saw videos on youtube? Well stop the fucking presses, then, I guess math, common sense, and the good old bit of prediction based on the company’s design patterns no longer matters.
        1) she’s more aoe oriented, hmc isn’t.
        2) she causes a secondary break point. This is the real niche and there’s currently very few characters who benefit (partially dot teams, mostly himeko and xueyi, neither of which are over performing.)
        3) she’s SP positive, HMC isn’t really.
        4) New mechanics are often expounded on with power creep = present good / future better.
        Which leads the ultimate point: there’s multiple compounding mathematical reasons she’s better in some comps than others, which makes your assessment insulting towards everyone’s intelligence, including your own.

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        • get real and open your fckg eyes you blind. now i ask you do you want to pull a unit that gives no significant benefit on your team? if i were you i won’t no matter how i love the character is, i told you already i have prefarmed for her completely just bcz i really love fugue chara design, but after see the match on YT i start to planning my next future and saving. yes ofc still v2 that’s why i say if she dont get any changes until final then no matter how i love the chara i choose follow the meta path.

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          • Personally I’m planning to use her WITH hmc in the same team

          • “now i ask you do you want to pull a unit that gives no significant benefit on your team?”

            Are you retarded? What’s a “significant benefit” depends on who you already have.

            If you’ve got literally every other character in the game at C6 – then I’m sorry for you, I guess? – But the rest of us with restraint and self respect have RNG and limited availability to deal with. so If you need a boost to himeko, guess what? Shit’s bussin’.

            If you’re retarded enough to think LITERALLY ANYBODY is talking about GETTING HER FOR A TEAM SHE DOESN’T BENEFIT, then congratulations on your successful lobotomy, I guess, thundertwink.

      • Bro thinks every new character has to kill the previous one.
        Hadn’t we had enough powercreep in this game history? Why won’t we get a healthy XQ-Yelan like sidegrade? To have some variety in break comp builds? Oh no we want to get an even more broken analogue of already broken enough character in the by far the best comp in the game right now.
        Ah, sorry, I’m being a bit delusional. Which “balance” am I talking about? I forgot we’re playing HSR for a second. In this game if a character is not two times stronger than previous people won’t pull for him.

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