 | Concepts | Cipher |
| Rarity |  | |
| Path |  Nihility | |
| Combat Types |  Quantum | |
| Character Materials |  308K 15 15 65 15 | |
| Trace Materials | 3M 1841 6956 13958 12 8 | |
| Story | In the fallen city of bandits, Dolos, the Race onward, fleet-Footed Thief Star Cifera, Chrysos Heir of the “Trickery” Coreflame, and may your web of lies spread with the breeze throughout all lands— “Tryna trick me? Fetch better scripts!” |
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Stats
| Level | ATK | DEF | HP | SPD | CRIT Rate | CRIT DMG | Taunt | Energy | Character Materials |
| 1 | 87.12 | 69.3 | 127 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | |
| 20 | 169.88 | 135.13 | 247 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | 40005 |
| 20+ | 204.73 | 162.85 | 298 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | |
| 30 | 248.29 | 197.5 | 361 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | 800010 |
| 30+ | 283.14 | 225.22 | 412 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | |
| 40 | 326.7 | 259.88 | 475 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | 1600063 |
| 40+ | 361.55 | 287.6 | 526 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | |
| 50 | 405.11 | 322.25 | 589 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | 4000097 |
| 50+ | 439.96 | 349.97 | 640 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | |
| 60 | 483.52 | 384.62 | 703 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | 80000620 |
| 60+ | 518.36 | 412.34 | 754 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | |
| 70 | 561.92 | 446.99 | 817 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | 160K935 |
| 70+ | 596.77 | 474.7 | 868 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | |
| 80 | 640.33 | 509.36 | 931 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 |
Skill
 | Oops, a Missed Catch - Basic ATK | Single Target |
| Energy Regeneration : 20 | |
| Weakness Break : Single Target : 30 | |
| Deals Quantum DMG equal to Deals minor Quantum DMG to one enemy. | |
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 | Hey, Jackpot for the Taking - Skill | Blast | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Energy Regeneration : 30 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Weakness Break : Single Target : 60 / Blast : 30 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| There is a Has a high chance to decrease one enemy and adjacent targets' DMG dealt, and increase Cipher's ATK. At the same time, deals Quantum DMG to one designated enemy and minor Quantum DMG to adjacent targets. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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 | Yours Truly, | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Energy Regeneration : 5 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Weakness Break : Single Target : 90 / Blast : 60 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Deals Quantum DMG equal to Deals True DMG equal to a portion of the current value recorded by her Talent and Quantum DMG to one enemy target, while also dealing True DMG equal to a portion of the current value recorded by her Talent and minor Quantum DMG to one enemy target and its adjacent units. The True DMG is Distributed across all targets of the ability. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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 | The Hospitable Dolosian - Talent | Single Target | ||||||||||||||||
| Energy Regeneration : 5 | |||||||||||||||||
| Weakness Break : Single Target : 60 | |||||||||||||||||
| When there are no enemy targets in "Patron" state on the battlefield, Cipher immediately causes one enemy target with the highest Max HP on the battlefield to become the "Patron." When using Skill and Ultimate, the primary target becomes the "Patron." The "Patron" state only takes effect on the latest target. After the "Patron" is attacked by other ally targets, Cipher immediately launches a Follow-up ATK against the "Patron," dealing Quantum DMG equal to Cipher will record Cipher causes one enemy target to enter the "Patron" state. After Cipher's teammates attack the target with "Patron," Cipher launches a Follow-up ATK, dealing Quantum DMG to the target. This attack can be triggered Cipher will record the DMG allies dealt to the target in the "Patron" state. The record resets after the Ultimate is used. | |||||||||||||||||
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 | Attack |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : Single Target : 30 | |
| Attacks an enemy, and when the battle starts, reduces their Toughness of the corresponding Type. | |
 | Puss in Boots - Technique | Enhance |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| Obtains "Zagreus's Blessing" for When entering battle with "Zagreus's Blessing" active, deals Quantum DMG equal to Gains "Zagreus's Blessing." While it is active, Cipher cannot be detected by enemies, and obtains random Consumables when approaching them. Cipher also deals minor Quantum DMG to all enemies upon entering battle. | |
Traces
 | Empyrean Strides |
| Requires Character Ascension 2 | |
| When Cipher's SPD is greater or equal to | 500031 |
 | DMG Boost: Quantum (Quantum DMG Boost) |
| Requires Character Ascension 2 | |
| Quantum DMG increases by | 500036 |
 | SPD Boost (SPD) |
| Requires Character Ascension 3 | |
| SPD increases by | 1000033 |
 | Effect Hit Rate Boost (Effect Hit Rate) |
| Requires Character Ascension 3 | |
| Effect Hit Rate increases by | 1000033 |
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| Requires Character Ascension 4 | |
| Cipher will record | 20000511 |
 | SPD Boost (SPD) |
| Requires Character Ascension 4 | |
| SPD increases by | 2000054 |
 | DMG Boost: Quantum (Quantum DMG Boost) |
| Requires Character Ascension 5 | |
| Quantum DMG increases by | 4500033 |
 | SPD Boost (SPD) |
| Requires Character Ascension 5 | |
| SPD increases by | 4500033 |
 | Sleight of Sky |
| Requires Character Ascension 6 | |
| Increases the CRIT DMG dealt by the Talent's Follow-up ATK by | 160K811 |
 | Effect Hit Rate Boost (Effect Hit Rate) |
| Requires Character Ascension 6 | |
| Effect Hit Rate increases by | 160K88 |
 | DMG Boost: Quantum (Quantum DMG Boost) |
| Requires Character Lv. 75 | |
| Quantum DMG increases by | 160K88 |
 | SPD Boost (SPD) |
| SPD increases by | 25002 |
 | SPD Boost (SPD) |
| Requires Character Lv. 80 | |
| SPD increases by | 160K88 |
Eidolons
 | Read the Room, Seek the Glee |  |
| Cipher's recorded DMG is |
 | In the Fray, Nab On a Spree |  |
| When Cipher hits an enemy target, there is a |
 | From Thin Air, Hard to Foresee |  |
| Ultimate Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. Basic ATK Lv. +1, up to a maximum of Lv. |
 | The Jig Is Up, Quick to Flee |  |
| After "Patron" is attacked by an ally target, Cipher deals Quantum Additional DMG equal to |
 | Safe in Numbers, Light as a Bee |  |
| Skill Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. Talent Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. |
 | The Thief's Game, Unsung and Free |  |
| Increases DMG dealt by Follow-up ATKs caused by Cipher's Talent by |
Light Cones
| Concepts | Rarity | Path | ATK | DEF | HP | Skill | Character Materials | |
 | Void | 3 | nihility-class | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | At the start of the battle, the wearer's Effect Hit Rate increases by |   |
 | Loop | 3 | nihility-class | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | Increases DMG dealt from its wearer to Slowed enemies by | |
 | Hidden Shadow | 3 | nihility-class | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | After using Skill, the wearer's next Basic ATK deals Additional DMG equal to |  |
 | Good Night and Sleep Well | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | For every debuff the target enemy has, the DMG dealt by the wearer increases by |  |
 | Eyes of the Prey | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | Increases the wearer's Effect Hit Rate by | |
 | Resolution Shines As Pearls of Sweat | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | When the wearer hits an enemy and if the hit enemy is not already "Ensnared," then there is a | |
 | Fermata | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | Increases the wearer's Break Effect by | |
 | We Will Meet Again | 4 | nihility-class | 529.2 | 330.75 | 846.72 | After the wearer uses Basic ATK or Skill, deals Additional DMG equal to | |
 | Before the Tutorial Mission Starts | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | Increases the wearer's Effect Hit Rate by |  |
 | In the Name of the World | 5 | nihility-class | 582.12 | 463.05 | 1058.4 | Increases the wearer's DMG to debuffed enemies by | |
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85 responses to “Cipher”
1. i have acheron e1s1 and her team is with pela and silverwolf as the nihility characters. would cipher be able to replace any of those two? and who should i keep if i do end up replacing one of them?
2. what relic sets (both 4pcs and 2pcs) would she be best using if we’re going with acheron team? idk if ill be able to go for s1 so i need sets for both possibilities (s0 and s1)
whats the build for her now, and what alternatives can she have for her lightcone, would welts cone work?
We can learn from Cipher’s Beta roller coaster ride.
Especially the ending.
Her V4 Buffed her a lot and then her V5 Nerfed her so hard it is ridiculus!
So HoYo doesn’t care.
First Catgirl!
Could have made so much money if she is OP.
If HoYo does this to a Female character, a sexy catgirl nontheless that could have made them so much more money, then clearly no character is safe from HoYo’s Nerf Hammer during Beta Phases!
man
No one cares about her personal damage. At E2S1 she multiply your entire team damage by 141% and at E0S1 by 99%. She is by far the best DPS support in the entire game. Her personal damage (which will get powercrept eventually) is just a cherry on top.
what relic set would she wear? would it be more spd focused
base 106 + traces 14 + boots 25 = 145; She needs 25 more speed for 170+ which is 10-13 substat rolls.
Fairly doable, 2 or 3 rolls per non-boots piece. 2pc speed bonuses will knock off 2 rolls. If you decide to go for 2pc bonuses, do cavern relic sets, since the planar speed options are worth as much as the cavern sets, plus wasted effects.
If you choose to do only speed substats (do this if sig LC), you’ll probably want Pioneer Diver, maybe Genius if Cipher is the carry or ran with Pela/SW
For planars, your pick of Glamoth, Duran, or Izumo. PCCE won’t be worth it at 39% ehr
Basically, you will want her to reach 170 SPD.
she has 120 SPD by default with her traces, her LC will be a great help as it gives 18% of SPD to wearer.
So if you plan on getting it you just need to reach 145 SPD, the LC will add up the SPD to 170.
For 4-PC I am hesitating between “Scholar Lost in Erudition”, “The Wind-Soaring Valorous” or “Genius of Brilliant Stars”. But I might take the last one considering she can only launch her follow up once per turn. Plus with all DEF debuffs + Damage increases she would seem to launch heavy attacks with it.
For 2-PC I’m going with “Inert Salsotto” which will buff both ult and follow-up. “Duran, Dynasty of Running Wolves” seems to be good too as it gives a higher buff for the follow up and also extra CRIT DMG but again she only launch the follow up once per turn so the stack would be long to take.
Though with how speedy she is she could reach it fast :/ We’ll see.
Feet’s main stat will definitely be SPD.
For Body I would recommend CRIT DMG, considering her first Trace gives her 50% Crit Chance if she does reach 170 SPD.
As for Planar Sphere and Rope I personally will go Quantum DMG and ATK%.
As for the substats, I will go with SPD, CRIT DMG, ATK% and CC. EHR could be helpful but 120 (+10 from traces) default EHR seems enough to me. I’ll see when I can grabby hands her when she is out. Might replace some CC with EHR if it is the case.
Then again that is my build, it may be not perfect in the end, you’re free to do the one that suits you better and compare. We’re here to discuss !
For relic sets, I think there are some more options you aren’t considering.
Pioneer Diver of Dead Waters 4-pc gives unconditional damage% and crit rate+damage, plus more crit stats if you apply a debuff, which is easy if you use skill or have her signature. It’s almost certainly worse than Genius if you are facing quantum-weak enemies, but can be more consistent otherwise.
Similarly, I would say Duran seems quite good for her, but for likely less damage you can pick up Glamoth, which has a speed requirement she easily activates. It has no ramp-up time for its damage bonus. However, if you use Cipher with another follow-up unit (Aventurine/Feixiao/Ratio/Topaz etc.) then the Duran ramp-up time is probably not as bad as you are thinking.
The Scholar and Valorous sets seem to focus on her ultimate damage, which to me seems to be a pretty small amount of her total damage. Its multiplier is 120% to the main target, then 40% to the main target and adjacent targets, so at most a 240% multiplier. Her skill does more damage than her ultimate, so Scholar does at least seem like a decent choice, but I’m unsure about how frequently she ults, so I’m not sure how much value you get out of it. I’m estimating about every 4 turns? The Scholar/Sacerdos cavern is also very good, so its not too much of an opportunity cost to farm, especially compared to the Genius set.
I agree with your stat choices though. You probably don’t want too much Effect Hit Rate, but I would venture to guess that a few rolls would be nice to have for her light cones.
So let me get this straight. At E2S1, she inflicts 70% vulnerability (40% from talent and 30% from E2) and 24% defense shred. That is a direct +95% damage increase from the whole team (even more if there are other def shredders in the team). On top of that, she inflicts 24% minimum of true damage, which makes another 24% damage increase from the whole team through her Ult. That is a total of 119% of damage increase.
No other support unit is capable of multiplying your team’s damage as much as her. Usually harmony supports such as Sunday, Ruan Mei etc, are usually proving capable of increasing between 50% to 70%.
New best nihility for archeron e2?
You’re asking the wrong question. The real question is. Is Acheron the best DPS to put with Cipher. Sadly, it’s probably no.
Sure Cipher is BiS for Acheron. But Acheron is not BiS for Cipher. Though imma get round that coz well E6 Acheron.
Well it looks like my Acheron team is going to have the cat boy and cat girl supporting her.
Correction, it looks like your cat girl is going to have your cat boy and Acheron supporting her.
Maybe, maybe.
Not anymore. Nerfed back down the earth.
Doesn’t her cone make any Nihility into an Acheron support?
It would make them better at it depending on who, but most of them wouldn’t perform well enough to justify them being picked over the staples we already have. If you’re interested,.i can go more in depth, but it might be a bit of a read lol.
My Wish came true…. Cipher enjoyers won in v3. I could cry…. Damn these buffs are beautiful.
i feel bad instead: She give free “increase damage” at a6 instead of def reduction, She erode totally JQ niche and also she can no longer use 4* Silver Wolf Cone and 5* welt cone
Not necessarily. i get your sentiment, but Jiaoqiu’s niche is more so his ability to funnel Acheron Stacks. He still does that WAY better than her, especially with good spd and eagle set, on top of ult vulnerability and regular. Vulnerability is also better than def shred generally, and she can use Resolution to still get some of that def shred at %16. Welt’s light cone also can still be used lol nothing changed with that. Also i’m speculating but since she is really the only nihility character that actually interacts with
the spd stat directly, we may get another
4* option for her, like for Rappa and Boothill.
is she good enough to replace pela on my acheron team? my acheron team consists of sw, pela, and gallagher. i mean, im pulling her regardless bc she’s pretty and cool, but if she’s versatile then why not?
also what about the remembrance teams like castorice and aglaea? both of them are sharing rmc and i’d love to find a replacement other than the bird siblings
You should replace SilverWolf, not Pela. And with Silverwolf getting buffed literally next patrch, I can’t even say she’ll be an improvement.
Current Cipher isn’t that good, she’s going to be weaker than RMC in any of the teams you mentioned.
Ignore the other person, Cipher is absolutely better than Pela for Acheron. SW, even with the buffs, will not have the insane Acheron stack generation that Cipher provides.
yeah I think she can replace pela as long as they don’t change her A6 Trace