 | Concepts | Cipher |
| Rarity |  | |
| Path |  Nihility | |
| Combat Types |  Quantum | |
| Character Materials |  308K 15 15 65 15 | |
| Trace Materials | 3M 1841 6956 13958 12 8 | |
| Story | In the fallen city of bandits, Dolos, the Race onward, fleet-footed Thief Star Cifera, Chrysos Heir of the “Trickery” Coreflame, and may your web of lies spread with the breeze throughout all lands— “Trying to trick me? Don’t even think about it!” |
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Stats
| Level | ATK | DEF | HP | SPD | CRIT Rate | CRIT DMG | Taunt | Energy | Character Materials |
| 1 | 87.12 | 69.3 | 127 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 100 | |
| 20 | 169.88 | 135.13 | 247 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 100 | 40005 |
| 20+ | 204.73 | 162.85 | 298 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 100 | |
| 30 | 248.29 | 197.5 | 361 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 100 | 800010 |
| 30+ | 283.14 | 225.22 | 412 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 100 | |
| 40 | 326.7 | 259.88 | 475 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 100 | 1600063 |
| 40+ | 361.55 | 287.6 | 526 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 100 | |
| 50 | 405.11 | 322.25 | 589 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 100 | 4000097 |
| 50+ | 439.96 | 349.97 | 640 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 100 | |
| 60 | 483.52 | 384.62 | 703 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 100 | 80000620 |
| 60+ | 518.36 | 412.34 | 754 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 100 | |
| 70 | 561.92 | 446.99 | 817 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 100 | 160K935 |
| 70+ | 596.77 | 474.7 | 868 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 100 | |
| 80 | 640.33 | 509.36 | 931 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 100 |
Skill
 | Oops, Past the Radar - Basic ATK | Single Target |
| Energy Regeneration : 20 | |
| Weakness Break : Single Target : 30 | |
| Deals Quantum DMG equal to Deals minor Quantum DMG to one enemy. | |
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 | Heh, Empty-Handed Haul - Skill | Blast | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Energy Regeneration : 30 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Weakness Break : Single Target : 60 / Blast : 30 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| There is a Decreases one enemy and adjacent targets' DMG dealt, increases Cipher's ATK, and deals Quantum DMG to one designated enemy and minor Quantum DMG to adjacent targets. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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 | Sincerely, Kitty Phantom Thief! - Ultimate | Blast | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Energy Regeneration : 5 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Weakness Break : Single Target : 90 / Blast : 60 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Deals Quantum DMG equal to Based on the DMG value recorded by Talent, deals a certain percentage of True DMG to one enemy and its adjacent targets. After the use, resets the recorded DMG value. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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 | Hospitable Dolos - Talent | Single Target | ||||||||||||||||
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |||||||||||||||||
| Weakness Break : Single Target : 60 | |||||||||||||||||
| When there are no enemy targets with "Regular Customer" on the battlefield, Cipher immediately causes one enemy target with the highest Max HP on the battlefield to become the "Regular Customer." When using Skill and Ultimate, the primary target becomes the "Regular Customer." The "Regular Customer" state only takes effect on the latest target. After the "Regular Customer" is attacked by other ally targets, Cipher immediately launches Follow-up ATK against the "Regular Customer," dealing Quantum DMG equal to Cipher will record Cipher causes one enemy target to enter the "Regular Customer" state and records the DMG it received. After Cipher's teammates attack the enemy target with "Regular Customer," Cipher launches Follow-up ATK against the target. After using Ultimate, Cipher can trigger this again. | |||||||||||||||||
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 | Attack |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : Single Target : 30 | |
| Attacks an enemy, and when the battle starts, reduces their Toughness of the corresponding Type. | |
 | Puss in Boots - Technique | Enhance |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| Obtains "Zagreus's Blessing" for When entering battle with "Zagreus's Blessing" active, deals Quantum DMG equal to Gains "Zagreus's Blessing." While it is active, enemy targets will not detect Cipher. Obtains random Consumables when approaching enemy targets. Cipher deals minor Quantum DMG to all enemies upon entering battle. | |
Traces
 | Godstep Marvelous Shoes |
| Requires Character Ascension 2 | |
| When Cipher's SPD is greater than or equal to | 500031 |
 | DMG Boost: Quantum (Quantum DMG Boost) |
| Requires Character Ascension 2 | |
| Quantum DMG increases by | 500036 |
 | SPD Boost (SPD) |
| Requires Character Ascension 3 | |
| SPD increases by | 1000033 |
 | HP Boost (HP) |
| Requires Character Ascension 3 | |
| Max HP increases by | 1000033 |
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| Requires Character Ascension 4 | |
| Cipher will record | 20000511 |
 | SPD Boost (SPD) |
| Requires Character Ascension 4 | |
| SPD increases by | 2000054 |
 | DMG Boost: Quantum (Quantum DMG Boost) |
| Requires Character Ascension 5 | |
| Quantum DMG increases by | 4500033 |
 | SPD Boost (SPD) |
| Requires Character Ascension 5 | |
| SPD increases by | 4500033 |
 | Ultimate Switcheroo |
| Requires Character Ascension 6 | |
| When Cipher is on the battlefield, all enemy targets' DEF decreases by | 160K811 |
 | HP Boost (HP) |
| Requires Character Ascension 6 | |
| Max HP increases by | 160K88 |
 | DMG Boost: Quantum (Quantum DMG Boost) |
| Requires Character Lv. 75 | |
| Quantum DMG increases by | 160K88 |
 | SPD Boost (SPD) |
| SPD increases by | 25002 |
 | SPD Boost (SPD) |
| Requires Character Lv. 80 | |
| SPD increases by | 160K88 |
Eidolons
 | Insight for Smiles |  |
| Increases the trigger count for Follow-up ATK from Talent by |
 | Distressed Slight-of-Hand |  |
| Cipher's recorded DMG is |
 | Obfuscation from Thin Air |  |
| Ultimate Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. Basic ATK Lv. +1, up to a maximum of Lv. |
 | Absconding in Exposure |  |
| After "Regular Customer" is attacked by an ally target, Cipher deals Quantum Additional DMG equal to |
 | Cunning as Hare, Lithe as Swallow |  |
| Skill Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. Talent Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. |
 | Burglar Incognito |  |
| Increases the DMG dealt by Follow-up ATK from Cipher's Talent by |
Light Cones
| Concepts | Rarity | Path | ATK | DEF | HP | Skill | Character Materials | |
 | Void | 3 | nihility-class | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | At the start of the battle, the wearer's Effect Hit Rate increases by |   |
 | Loop | 3 | nihility-class | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | Increases DMG dealt from its wearer to Slowed enemies by | |
 | Hidden Shadow | 3 | nihility-class | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | After using Skill, the wearer's next Basic ATK deals Additional DMG equal to |  |
 | Good Night and Sleep Well | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | For every debuff the target enemy has, the DMG dealt by the wearer increases by |  |
 | Eyes of the Prey | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | Increases the wearer's Effect Hit Rate by | |
 | Resolution Shines As Pearls of Sweat | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | When the wearer hits an enemy and if the hit enemy is not already "Ensnared," then there is a | |
 | Fermata | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | Increases the wearer's Break Effect by | |
 | We Will Meet Again | 4 | nihility-class | 529.2 | 330.75 | 846.72 | After the wearer uses Basic ATK or Skill, deals Additional DMG equal to | |
 | Before the Tutorial Mission Starts | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | Increases the wearer's Effect Hit Rate by |  |
 | In the Name of the World | 5 | nihility-class | 582.12 | 463.05 | 1058.4 | Increases the wearer's DMG to debuffed enemies by | |
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38 responses to “Cipher”
No one talking about her breast-waist-hips ratio? She’s so damn hot!
I like what they are going for with her. That while she is a debuffer at heart like pela and jiaoqiu, unlike them, she actually has personal damage. That being said though, she’s looking rough to build, especially without LC. I personally hate EHR (and by extension effect res) as a stat in this game because for some reason, these enemies nowadays have a LOT of debuff resistance. I’m mentioning this because her LC is all about debuffing, and its going to feel really bad if you miss a proc because some boss has like 50%+ resistance. You could of course run EHR Chest piece to ensure this doesn’t happen instead of praying to da wei, but then you’re really hurting her damage, which is her main advantage over other nihility units. Maybe i’m overestimating, but i feel like the 120% chance is not enough to be consistent. She’s similar to xueyi, which is not a good thing at all, despite how good xueyi can be at high investment. That being said, i’ve seen some people saying she’s worthless. Thats kinda crazy lol. First impressions are okay, but Lets keep in mind that its V1, and honestly, she really just needs some tweaks. She has insane Potential.
Another thing is that she has no idea who she wants to work with the best. To be fair, not every support/sub carry HAS to be best-in-slot in a team to justify pulling, but the reason its such a concern for her is that the competition is STIFF. That’s why they tried to give her a bit of everything (jiaoqiu’s debuffing, hunt squad’s follow up, ult spam) that current units have, but she’s stretched too thin imo. Especially with a LOT of her power (particularly with Feixiao) being locked behind early eidolons.
I personally am likely to pull her despite all this though (don’t have topaz. been using moze with an E2 Fei since release LOL and i wanna change things up) and i think she’s going to be fun. Here are Some quick changes i think would be good since this comment is mad long and i gotta get back to work lol
Wealth Bond – every time it gets 45 points (its like a tally), Cipher launches her follow up. This would be a perfect medium and take pressure off pulling her E1, and make her feel better overall for both teams, while also helping to stack higher consistently and make her ult hit harder more often.
Trace should give CRIT DMG as well. Also chop some top off of the cap. Like maybe 155 spd instead of 170? Her stats are already spread thin, Especially without LC.
Also if anyone thinks i’m underestimating her, please let me know. This unit is very interesting to me and i’d be happy to hear some things i might have missed.
120% base chance means you need 39% to have a guaranteed debuff on the highest EffRes possible on enemies. I dont think you absolutely need to be at 100% chance, but with some random substats on some pieces you’ll prolly get to ~20% comfortably, which gives you an 86.4% chance to hit the LC debuff on them. LC might also be later changed into a per hit roll like Kafka’s and then it would be even easier to hit
Even if I grab E2S1 Cipher ? I currently have E1S1 JaoQiu but I don’t really like the character overall.
If I could slot him out for Cipher I’d do it even more if there are no massive upgrade.
As long as it’s not a downgrade lol…
Character confirms Hoyo has all V1-V7 betas already done before pbt even begins
Her ult and follow ups ignore weakness regardless of toughness, despite not being stated, alongside pre beta nerfs it’s obvious. Beta is mass marketing campaign, with buffs near the end for hype generation.
Her performance is interesting. I think she’s worthless for most people on release
To put it bluntly, most teams don’t want her. She isn’t a significant upgrade in Feixiao teams, JQ is stronger for Acheron, Castorice and Break have too strict of teamcomps to slot her. You’ll find it hard to find many teams where Cipher is the engine that makes a team function. Which is quite sad because
Her kit is REALLY POTENT. Most of her value will come from sustainless clears and 0 cycling. She’s a really good 4th slot in a lot of teams. She is Pela pro max, and we all know how versatile that unit was.
but She has peak animations xD
i’d like to pull for her for my Acheron e0s1 + JQ e0s1 team and remove Pela
she is kebin best support
cipher is a pela replacement, not a jiaoqiu replacement
cipher is much better than pela for acheron, as long as you have a debuffing LC
cipher + jiaoqiu + acheron will be her premium team for e0 and e1
also, she can replace rmc for characters that don’t need rmc’s cdmg and aa as much
At the moment is she a better support than JaoQiu for Acheron ?
I have E2 Acheron what would be better?
Acheron Cipher Sparkle
Acheron JaoQiu Sparkle
Acheron JaoQiu Cipher
Thx for your help?
for e2 acheron jiaoqiu sparkle is still the best. if you want an upgrade then ciphers lc will be better on jiaoqiu then his own for acherons dmg, but it does make jiaoqiu way harder to build.
imo 24% vuln > 24% def shred
he gives so much through his kit alr so i just figured def shred would be stronger
Acheron JaoQiu Sunday/Robin and for healer anyone who apply debuff
She really wants speed, so what would be the best relics for her?
I’m thinking 2-piece messenger and 2-piece sacerdos’ for a 12% speed increase plus either forge planar set to give an extra 6% speed or the firmament to increase damage from high speed if I can get the 170 speed she needs.
Think that would work for her?
base 106
feet is 25 (+base=131)
each 6% is worth 6.36 speed, 18% = 19 speed (150 with feet)
20 speed on subs is not that hard to get, even more so considering shes atq>fua scaling
i dont think its worth dropping at least one 4piecebonus for a 6% 2set, unless both pieces godly and it’d take you that 170
Lemme get this straight, she’s an attack scaling Quantum subdps that wants to skill regularly but is fine using basic in a pinch. She also records the damage dealt to enemies, therefore caring about how much damage her main dps of choice is outputting?
Could this be the first character since… ever… that actually uses all facets of Sparkle’s buff suite?
Well, you know what Sparkle’s grant her team when she ult?
Yes, Cipher..
Idk why but she lowkey gives Pela vibes, less DEF shred, but like… she actually hits hard Arche, Jiao Qiu, Cipher.. hmmm
she doesn’t hit that hard only 540k with robin and 350 of her stacks
What if she could be a Tribbie replacement for Anaxa + The Herta? Anaxa gives +50% DMG, The Herta gives +80% CDMG, and Cipher shreds 54% DEF (w/LC) and deals massive True DMG. Triple DPS meta?
We need her final version to decide, but the amount of harmony that work better than her is really high
Someone should do the calcs, bc -54% DEF gives her Pela’s damage amp, and the True DMG buff gives her RMC’s damage amp. And on top of that, she can deal damage.
she don’t replace Tribbie her Kit is more of a dps who need there ult more and want someone to do as high damage possibly in her team so she can use her own ult
I would still like to try that team out to see if it’s good (when she releases). Maybe it’ll work?
also she don’t replace topaz in fart team as topaz increase Feixiao by like 560k then 300k with cipher who will only do that much and it will take her like a long time to build enough stacks to do it
“I’m fast af boi”
aglaea?
i’v reached 330 with her on my main account with hanya/asta
moc team is 240 still