Jiaoqiu

Jiaoqiu
JiaoqiuConceptsJiaoqiu
RarityRaritystrRaritystrRaritystrRaritystrRaritystr
PathClass Nihility
Combat TypesClass Fire
Character Materials
Credit308K
Immortal Scionette15
Immortal Aeroblossom15
Raging Heart65
Immortal Lumintwig15
Trace Materials
Credit3M
Fiery Spirit18
Immortal Scionette41
Starfire Essence69
Immortal Aeroblossom56
Heaven Incinerator139
Immortal Lumintwig58
Regret of Infinite Ochema12
Tracks of Destiny8
StoryA foxian healer and counselor from the Xianzhou Yaoqing. Often greets people with a smile on his face and a scheme in his heart.
Born into a prestigious Alchemy Commission family, he once withdrew from practicing medicine due to a broken heart. However, he returned to the field to treat “the Merlin’s Claw,” General Feixiao.
Skilled in the study of alchemical prescription that views food as medicine, especially those that induce a sensation of spiciness. They invented a cauldron-based medicinal formula known as the “nine-squared grid.”

Table of Contents
Stats
Skill
Traces
Eidolons
Light Cones
Inventory
Gallery
Voice
Story

Stats

LevelATKDEFHPSPDCRIT RateCRIT DMGTauntEnergyCharacter Materials
181.8469.3185985%50%100100
20159.59135.13360985%50%100100
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Immortal Scionette5
20+192.32162.85434985%50%100100
30233.24197.5527985%50%100100
Credit8000
Immortal Scionette10
30+265.98225.22601985%50%100100
40306.9259.88693985%50%100100
Credit16000
Immortal Aeroblossom6
Raging Heart3
40+339.64287.6767985%50%100100
50380.56322.25859985%50%100100
Credit40000
Immortal Aeroblossom9
Raging Heart7
50+413.29349.97933985%50%100100
60454.21384.621026985%50%100100
Credit80000
Immortal Lumintwig6
Raging Heart20
60+486.95412.341100985%50%100100
70527.87446.991192985%50%100100
Credit160K
Immortal Lumintwig9
Raging Heart35
70+560.6474.71266985%50%100100
80601.52509.361358985%50%100100
LevelCharacter Materials
1
20
Credit4000
Immortal Scionette5
20+
40
Credit16000
Immortal Aeroblossom6
Raging Heart3
40+
50
Credit40000
Immortal Aeroblossom9
Raging Heart7
50+
60
Credit80000
Immortal Lumintwig6
Raging Heart20
60+
70
Credit160K
Immortal Lumintwig9
Raging Heart35
70+
80

Skill

Heart AfireHeart Afire - Basic ATK | Single Target
Energy Regeneration : 20
Weakness Break : Single Target : 30
Deals Fire DMG equal to of Jiaoqiu's ATK to a single target enemy.

Deals minor Fire DMG to a single enemy.
Level 10
Scorch OnslaughtScorch Onslaught - Skill | Blast
Energy Regeneration : 30
Weakness Break : Single Target : 60 / Blast : 30
Deals Fire DMG equal to of Jiaoqiu's ATK to a single target enemy and Fire DMG equal to of Jiaoqiu's ATK to adjacent targets, with a base chance to inflict 1 stack of Ashen Roast on the primary target.

Deals Fire DMG to a single enemy and minor Fire DMG to adjacent targets, with a high chance to inflict 1 stack of Ashen Roast on the primary target.
Level 15
Pyrograph ArcanumPyrograph Arcanum - Ultimate | AoE
Energy Regeneration : 5
Weakness Break : AoE : 60
Sets the number of "Ashen Roast" stacks on enemy targets to the highest number of "Ashen Roast" stacks present on the battlefield. Then, activates a Zone and deals Fire DMG equal to of Jiaoqiu's ATK to all enemies.
While inside the Zone, enemy targets receive increased Ultimate DMG, with a base chance of being inflicted with 1 stack of Ashen Roast when taking action. While the Zone exists, this effect can trigger up to time(s). And for each enemy target, it can only trigger once per turn. This trigger count resets every time Jiaoqiu uses Ultimate.
The Zone lasts for turn(s), and its duration decreases by 1 at the start of this unit's every turn. If Jiaoqiu gets knocked down, the Zone will also be dispelled.

Sets the number of "Ashen Roast" stacks on enemy targets to the highest number of "Ashen Roast" stacks present on the battlefield. Then, activates a Zone and deals Fire DMG to all enemies. While inside the Zone, enemy targets receive increased Ultimate DMG, with a chance of being inflicted with 1 stack of Ashen Roast when taking action.
Level 15
Quartet Finesse, Octave FineryQuartet Finesse, Octave Finery - Talent | Impair
Energy Regeneration : 0
Weakness Break : 0
When Jiaoqiu hits an enemy with Basic ATK, Skill or Ultimate, there is a base chance to inflict 1 stack of Ashen Roast on them. At 1 stack, increases DMG received by the enemy by . Then, each subsequent stack increases this by .
Ashen Roast is capped at stack(s) and lasts for turn(s).
When an enemy target is afflicted with Ashen Roast, they are also considered as being Burned at the same time, taking Fire DoT equal to of Jiaoqiu's ATK at the start of each turn.

When attacking with Basic ATK, Skill, or Ultimate, there is a high chance to inflict 1 stack of "Ashen Roast" on the target, causing the enemy to take increased DMG and also be considered as Burned at the same time.
Level 15
AttackAttack
Energy Regeneration : 0
Weakness Break : Single Target : 30
Attacks an enemy, and when the battle starts, reduces their Toughness of the corresponding Type.

Level 1
Fiery QuellerFiery Queller - Technique | Impair
Energy Regeneration : 0
Weakness Break : 0
After using Technique, creates a Special Dimension that lasts for second(s). After entering combat with enemies in this Special Dimension, deals Fire DMG equal to of Jiaoqiu's ATK to all enemies, with a base chance of applying 1 "Ashen Roast" stack. Only 1 dimension created by allies can exist at the same time.

Creates a Special Dimension. After entering combat with enemies in this dimension, deals minor Fire DMG to all enemies, with a high chance of applying 1 "Ashen Roast" stack.
Level 1

Traces

Pyre CleansePyre Cleanse
Requires Character Ascension 2
When battle starts, immediately regenerates 15 Energy.
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Fiery Spirit3
Regret of Infinite Ochema1
DMG Boost: FireDMG Boost: Fire (Fire DMG Boost)
Requires Character Ascension 2
Fire DMG increases by 3.2%
Credit5000
Fiery Spirit3
Immortal Scionette6
Effect Hit Rate BoostEffect Hit Rate Boost (Effect Hit Rate)
Requires Character Ascension 3
Effect Hit Rate increases by 4%
Credit10000
Starfire Essence3
Immortal Aeroblossom3
SPD BoostSPD Boost (SPD)
Requires Character Ascension 3
SPD increases by 2
Credit10000
Starfire Essence3
Immortal Aeroblossom3
Hearth KindleHearth Kindle
Requires Character Ascension 4
For every 15% of Jiaoqiu's Effect Hit Rate that exceeds 80%, additionally increases ATK by 60%, up to 240%.
Credit20000
Starfire Essence5
Tracks of Destiny1
Regret of Infinite Ochema1
Effect Hit Rate BoostEffect Hit Rate Boost (Effect Hit Rate)
Requires Character Ascension 4
Effect Hit Rate increases by 6%
Credit20000
Starfire Essence5
Immortal Aeroblossom4
DMG Boost: FireDMG Boost: Fire (Fire DMG Boost)
Requires Character Ascension 5
Fire DMG increases by 4.8%
Credit45000
Heaven Incinerator3
Immortal Lumintwig3
Effect Hit Rate BoostEffect Hit Rate Boost (Effect Hit Rate)
Requires Character Ascension 5
Effect Hit Rate increases by 6%
Credit45000
Heaven Incinerator3
Immortal Lumintwig3
Seared ScentSeared Scent
Requires Character Ascension 6
While the Zone exists, enemies entering combat will be inflicted with Ashen Roast. The number of stacks applied will match the highest number of "Ashen Roast" stacks possessed by any unit while the Zone is active, with a minimum of 1 stack(s).
Credit160K
Heaven Incinerator8
Tracks of Destiny1
Regret of Infinite Ochema1
SPD BoostSPD Boost (SPD)
Requires Character Ascension 6
SPD increases by 3
Credit160K
Heaven Incinerator8
Immortal Lumintwig8
DMG Boost: FireDMG Boost: Fire (Fire DMG Boost)
Requires Character Lv. 75
Fire DMG increases by 6.4%
Credit160K
Heaven Incinerator8
Immortal Lumintwig8
Effect Hit Rate BoostEffect Hit Rate Boost (Effect Hit Rate)
Effect Hit Rate increases by 4%
Credit2500
Immortal Scionette2
Effect Hit Rate BoostEffect Hit Rate Boost (Effect Hit Rate)
Requires Character Lv. 80
Effect Hit Rate increases by 8%
Credit160K
Heaven Incinerator8
Immortal Lumintwig8

Eidolons

Pentapathic TransferencePentapathic TransferencePentapathic Transference
Allies deal 40% increased DMG to enemy targets afflicted with Ashen Roast. Whenever inflicting Ashen Roast on an enemy target via triggering the Talent's effect, additionally increases the number of "Ashen Roast" stacks applied this time by 1.
From Savor Comes SufferFrom Savor Comes SufferFrom Savor Comes Suffer
When an enemy target is afflicted with Ashen Roast, increases the multiplier for the Fire DoT dealt by Ashen Roast to this target by 300%.
Flavored Euphony Reigns SupremeFlavored Euphony Reigns SupremeFlavored Euphony Reigns Supreme
Skill Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. 15.
Basic ATK Lv. +1, up to a maximum of Lv. 10.
Leisure In, Luster OutLeisure In, Luster OutLeisure In, Luster Out
When the Zone exists, reduces enemy target's ATK by 15%.
Duel in Dawn, Dash in DuskDuel in Dawn, Dash in DuskDuel in Dawn, Dash in Dusk
Ultimate Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. 15.
Talent Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. 15.
Nonamorphic PyrobindNonamorphic PyrobindNonamorphic Pyrobind
When an enemy target gets defeated, their accumulated "Ashen Roast" stacks will transfer to the enemy with the lowest number of "Ashen Roast" stacks on the battlefield. The maximum stack limit of Ashen Roast increases to 9, and each "Ashen Roast" stack reduces the target's All-Type RES by 3%.

Light Cones

ConceptsRarityPathATKDEFHPSkillCharacter Materials
Void
Void3
RarstrRarstrRarstr
nihility-class317.52264.6846.72At the start of the battle, the wearer's Effect Hit Rate increases by 20% for 3 turn(s).
Obsidian of Obsession
Ancient Engine
Loop
Loop3
RarstrRarstrRarstr
nihility-class317.52264.6846.72Increases DMG dealt from its wearer to Slowed enemies by 24%.
Obsidian of Obsession
Ancient Engine
Hidden Shadow
Hidden Shadow3
RarstrRarstrRarstr
nihility-class317.52264.6846.72After using Skill, the wearer's next Basic ATK deals Additional DMG equal to 60% of ATK to the target enemy.
Obsidian of Obsession
Artifex's Gyreheart
Good Night and Sleep Well
Good Night and Sleep Well4
RarstrRarstrRarstrRarstr
nihility-class476.28330.75952.56For every debuff the target enemy has, the DMG dealt by the wearer increases by 12%, stacking up to 3 time(s). This effect also applies to DoT.
Obsidian of Obsession
Silvermane Medal
Eyes of the Prey
Eyes of the Prey4
RarstrRarstrRarstrRarstr
nihility-class476.28330.75952.56Increases the wearer's Effect Hit Rate by 20% and increases DoT by 24%.
Obsidian of Obsession
Ancient Engine
Resolution Shines As Pearls of Sweat
Resolution Shines As Pearls of Sweat4
RarstrRarstrRarstrRarstr
nihility-class476.28330.75952.56When the wearer hits an enemy and if the hit enemy is not already "Ensnared," then there is a 60% base chance to "Ensnare" the hit enemy. "Ensnared" enemies' DEF decreases by 12% for 1 turn(s).
Obsidian of Obsession
Artifex's Gyreheart
Fermata
Fermata4
RarstrRarstrRarstrRarstr
nihility-class476.28330.75952.56Increases the wearer's Break Effect by 16%, and increases their DMG to enemies afflicted with Shock or Wind Shear by 16%. This also applies to DoT.
Obsidian of Obsession
Silvermane Medal
We Will Meet Again
We Will Meet Again4
RarstrRarstrRarstrRarstr
nihility-class529.2330.75846.72After the wearer uses Basic ATK or Skill, deals Additional DMG equal to 48% of the wearer's ATK to a random enemy that has been attacked.
Obsidian of Obsession
Ancient Engine
Before the Tutorial Mission Starts
Before the Tutorial Mission Starts4
RarstrRarstrRarstrRarstr
nihility-class476.28330.75952.56Increases the wearer's Effect Hit Rate by 20%. When the wearer attacks DEF-reduced enemies, regenerates 4 Energy.
Obsidian of Obsession
Squirming Core
In the Name of the World
In the Name of the World5
RarstrRarstrRarstrRarstrRarstr
nihility-class582.12463.051058.4Increases the wearer's DMG to debuffed enemies by 24%. When the wearer uses their Skill, the Effect Hit Rate for this attack increases by 18%, and ATK increases by 24%.
Obsidian of Obsession
Silvermane Medal
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528 responses to “Jiaoqiu”

  1. What could be the best relics? I guess 2 piece messenger, but what else?

      
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    • I assume it would be more viable to put 4 piece prisoner and 2 piece pan galactic, for the atk% and DoT def ignore, and the effect hit rate, but you can run 2 piece messenger and 2 piece prisoner as well

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    • i think 4 piece prisoner is better, but 2 piece prisoner and messenger works fine

      for planar sets, i think pan galactic enterprise is best for effect hit rate, or broken keel for eff res & and crit dmg

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  2. Even after all of the nerfs, you simps are still willing to spend your jades for him? I’m so proud of you simps 🤗

      
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  3. After seeing his animations a few more times, I’m kinda sad I don’t really have a place for him, which is primarily the reason I’m probably not pulling. My Follow Up team has enough debuffs amongst themselves and also have Robin. My DoT team has Ruan Mei. There could be a case for triple DoT but I’ve heard numerous times than slotting a harmony is usually better (plus I already have said harmony).

    Only place I can think of is perhaps my Jade team, but at that point, either Robin or Ruan Mei will be available for use depending on the other side, so unless I want total exclusivity, I dunno where to put him. I don’t have Acheron (nor will I ever) so yeah…

    If 2.6’s drip marketing is another disappointment, perhaps I’ll get him anyway and figure it out as I go.

      
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    • It’s a game, it’s alright to pull for him just cause you like his animations. I’m a sucker for being effective and overall efficient, but to be honest, i do think you can play him for fun and make a hyper dps build, dot dps or even switch him to replace someone who could be better. I think comfort characters are necessary to leisure time when the good ones are doing their job but you’re not enjoying it as much. Just my 2 cents and how i deal with gacha games. Hope it ”helps”

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      • I mean I suppose I can do that. But I’ll still wait for 2.6 drip marketing. So far, I don’t like anyone else from the other 3. Moze was interesting, but he’s a 4 star so I’ll get him eventually. If 2.6 is another bust, then I definitely will cuz by the time 2.7 (or 3.0 if they don’t go for 7) rolls I’ll have enough pulls for another character :3

        Thanks for the input!

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    • Jiaoqiu is better than RM for DoT teams. If you get S1 he becomes even better then each Eidolon also makes him much better than that. At E2/S1 Jiaoqiu increases max DPS by 50% more than a team with RM in. With his DoT, Black Swans and Kafka’s with the buffs applied Kafka pretty much becomes a hyper buffed Jingliu level DPS on top of still having all that DoT at the same time. In short it’s like having 2 hyper buffed Jingliu’s at the same time on the same team.

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      • Really? 😮 Something to consider then. I won’t get his S1 sadly as I won’t have enough pulls. I will prolly use either S5 Tutorial or Eyes of the Prey.

        What would you say is a greater increase to the DoT team: Replacing RM with Jiaoqiu or Keeping RM but getting Black Swan S1? As that’s the other thing I was eyeing :3

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          • Damn. Jiaoqiu isn’t even in that. Must be horrid.

            Black Swan S1 is the most I’m willing to put cuz I like her most hehe

          • Jiaoqiu E2S1 is good but that would not worth the cost. At this level of investment you can afford E6 already. I can’t recommend unless you love Jiaoqiu and risk any cost to make him strong.

          • In theory I can get Black Swan S1 and Jiaoqiu E0S0. It was more of “if I had to choose between S1 or Jiaoqiu, who is stronger assuming everything else is the same”

          • Black Swan S1, obviously. Black Swan herself has 20% + 20.8% def shred and the relic set has 18% def shred. More def shred is always welcome. You get 28.8% additional def shred from the light cone, which is a huge boost vs. 4-star alternatives. While Jiaoqiu has no def shred at all.

            Black Swan’s E1 is often recommended over S1 because it’s a team-wide 25% res pen and is 100% uptime unconditionally, which is apparently stronger than 20% attack and 28.8% def shred for Black Swan herself. However never forget eidolons are more expensive than signature light cones.

          • I’ve only every gotten 1 eidolon and it was for Jade. I saw first hand how much more it takes than a lightcone so never again xD

            But thanks for your input! I will stick to my plan of first see who’s in 2,6 then go from there 😀

    • From some comparison I watched, they are almost equal or Jiaoqiu E0S1 can be a bit better at the time, but ultimately still same clearing cycle or Jiaoqiu could get 1 cycle faster at some fights. If you need RM in another team than pulling for him is a good enough reason, otherwise if you really want someone else, it is fine to skip and wait for his rerun

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      • I guess that’s the core of it. I currently don’t want any of those they drip marketed nor any rerun besides Black Swan LC perhaps. So I’ll wait and see and if there’s nothing I want, I’ll get him.

        Thanks for the input!

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  4. His banner is about to make $0. You might as well give him away for free Hoyo. He’s already mid

      
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    • people doomposted about acheron and she became an ss-tier DPS. Jiaoqiu is amazing y’all are just doomposting over the tiniest of mechanics.

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    • He’s literally the highest rated char next banner lol. He need Eidolons to be really good, but once you have them he’s a beast.

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      • eidolons for a limited 5* is a level of investment that a decent chunk of the playerbase simply isn’t going to bother with. if e0 isn’t good enough to justify pulling then plenty of people will simply skip him because eidolons are expensive and there’s better uses for those pulls for most people, like getting other characters rather than just making this one character useful

        i’m not saying that he’s bad or anything but e0 is kinda lacking compared to other characters so i wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t sell particularly well

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        • He’ll still be meta at E0 simply because of Acheron being the most used character and him being her best in slot Nahility buffer.

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          • anyone who wants their Acheron to do the biggest numbers possible will probably at least try to pull him, yeah. but she honestly doesn’t need him, she more than capable of clearing stuff already and adding Jiaoqiu is just overkill unless they ramp up the difficulty of things, which’d screw over everyone who doesn’t have her and likely won’t be well received as a result

            he’ll have some popularity due to how well he works for Acheron but I highly doubt he’ll sell anywhere close to as much as Acheron herself or FF did or waifu characters in general do, average sales level is more likely for him

          • Ultimately speaking from fair point, newer player that miss / skip SW rerun will find E0/S1 Jiaoqiu being great for them, for older players that already have DoT team for Acheron or SW can skip him as there won’t be a huge missing out of performance ( 1 – 2 cycle gap perhaps, but if you already 0 – 2 cycle clears most of the time, this isn’t a huge impact ) , unless easier low cycle / 0 cycle clear with Acheron is their intention

  5. Ill probably still pull for him solely because I love his design, plus I’m pretty sure he’s the first male foxian(I think that’s what his race is called) so that’s cool too, I am kinda upset that he doesn’t have any sorta heal whatsoever even though in his lore the state MULTIPLE TIMES that he’s an innovative healer that even invented unique medicine…but I digress, if anything I hope at least they boost his dmg up a bit.

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  6. If hoyo doesn’t add the information about the limitation of activations of debuffs on his ultimate to the description, I don’t think they can leave it like this, otherwise it’s misleading

      
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    • It does say. It’s just that the site is quite slow at updating the EN descriptions sometimes. If you want up to date information, just change the language to CHS and translate the descriptions to English, or wait very patiently.

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  7. I will pull for him because i like his design and i’m sure he will be useful somehow. I don’t have or plan to have Acheron, but Honkai is only a game and i can use his debuffs effectively. Good luck everyone pulling or saving for a next character!

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  8. Jiaoqiu can still give 6 free stacks to Acheron every ult on top of every action he can use his skill/basic and ultimate. Given that you can ult every 2-3 turns with Jiaoqiu, that’s going to give you a couple extra ults within a fight. For Acheron, being able to have an extra ult leads to a big damage boost. And that’s not even taking into account his personal damage. His DoT won’t reach the likes of Kafka or Black Swan, but he will definitely outdamage 4-stars like Guinaifen because of his 240% atk boost. I use Welt with Acheron and I don’t have Black Swan or Silver Wolf, so I am definitely pulling for Jiaoqiu. Black Swan feels more made towards Kafka DoT teams and Silver Wolf is only single target so I don’t really feel like they mesh as well with Acheron (just in my personal opinion). Jiaoqiu combined with Pela will give full AoE coverage for debuffs, meaning that every target on the field will get an AoE def shred + a 50% boost to ultimate dmg. Given that Acheron is an AoE character, it will give a huge boost to her damage, scaling higher with each enemy on field. Yes Silver Wolf will do better than Jiaoqiu in single target situations, but Silver Wolf won’t be able to take advantage of Acheron’s full abilities when there are multiple targets. Also don’t forget that Jiaoqiu’s damage boost and Pela’s def shred will also increase Jiaoqiu’s DoT damage. Overall, while I wish Jiaoqiu wasn’t nerfed, he still has great synergy with an Acheron/Pela team and he will boost Acheron’s damage by quite a bit. I also really like his character design so in my personal opinion, he is worth pulling for. That said, his main synergy is with Acheron so don’t pull him if you don’t like playing Acheron (although you can still pull him if you just like pulling for the character designs). He isn’t the most perfect character with the most broken kit, but he is certainly a great character. Keep in mind that this analysis is just my personal opinion so feel free to let me know your thoughts.

      
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    • Personally I would keep in mind the strength and roaster of what my account is at/have

      While Jiaoqiu will obvious better for Acheron in almost any scenarios over Silver Wolf / Gui / other Nihilities, it is also good to keep in mind if your current Acheron team even need the extra strength Jiaoqiu going to give, such as if 0 cycle / 80k PF score is that important to you. A friendly reminder that great stats build / spd tuning / strategy can affect your performance against different fights too, your Acheron may can still punch through most thing or 0 cycling any fights by simply build the stats and strategy toward that goal

      As well as consider if you have side options that work with Acheron, a Kafka + Black swan + RM can breakthrough any PF, as well as the usual Acheron + SW + Pela + Sustain already put most fight down in 1 – 3 cycles, 0 cycling if replace sustain with harmony. So do consider if going beyond of just clearing the content / get the reward is your intention

      Of course if you really lack most of side options like SW / Kafka + Black Swan then his pull value will be massively beneficial. Otherwise you can pull him for any other reason that isn’t relate to strength 😀

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    • nice job JQ sales, keep going! keep spreading good news, prbably people would pity you and decide to pull him.

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      • I’ll have the last laugh when Jiaoqiu ends up being a powerful Acheron support and skippers get stuck with silver wolf lol

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        • go laugh moron, why i would get triggered while my Acheron at E6S5 and i don’t even use SIlver Wolf or Pela, i use BS and Sparkle which also at E6 on my main account so go ahead laugh, peasant 🙂

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          • For anyone who plays the game like a normal person, Jiaoqiu is still acheron’s best support. Just because you waste your life savings on a video game doesn’t mean the majority of the player base does. My point still stands for normal players.

    • Despite the nerf to the amount of debuffs his ult can apply via enemy turns, he can still get max PF points with E0 Acheron. Team was Acheron, Jiaoqiu, Pela and Aventurine. Anyone with E2 Acheron running Bronya can get away without Pela and Aventurine. This is still far better than what Acheron can do with that same team but with SW in place of Jiaoqiu.

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      • SW is nigh useless in PF, not even being the 3rd nihility in an E0 Acheron’s team is considered useful. This is due to the overwhelmingly high damage that Acheron has, she board sweeps without the need of any DPS supports. If there is only one nihility in the team, then you probably need a harmony to compensate, and the damage is still adequate to board sweep.

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        • Yea she is. Probs better off using Gui yet i’ve still seen SW be mentioned.

          But either way, Jiaoqiu solves her PF issues.

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      • i have never liked using acheron in pf like at all lol. its probs cause i dont have any dot units so i cant use dotcheron

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    • I hate to break it to you, but there isn’t a large difference between Guinaifen and Jiaoqiu at all. While Jiaoqiu gives himself a lot more attack than Guinaifen does, that doesn’t make up for the significantly lower modifier on his burn. Also he requires a lot more effect hit rate and speed than Guinaifen does – substats and mainstats that Guinaifen can put into atk% instead. He is shackled to light cones which provide effect hit rate for this same reason, while Guinaifen can run more damage oriented ones such as solitary healing. On top of all of this, Guinaifen can pop her DoT using her ult, while Jiaoqiu must wait for the enemy’s turn for it to deal damage, resulting in Guinaifen getting a few more burns per burn than Jiaoqiu does. After spending 3 hours today doing the maths in the hope that he was better, the results are… very depressing (I’m still pulling for him though).

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      • Idk if I’m building Guinaifen wrong, but mine just hits like a wet noodle. I did use an ERR link rope and SPD boots on Guinaifen, but Jiaoqiu can use these two pieces while still having a huge amount of ATK. Yes, Guinaifen has a higher atk multiplier, but she has like no atk sources of her own so her DoT ends up being much weaker. E6 Guinaifen is more competitive with Jiaoqiu, but still lags behind. I didn’t do exact calculations, but Jiaoqiu’s atk seems to be double that of Guinaifen (with the same relic pieces) and his DoT multiplier is 180%. Guinaifen starts at 218.21% and goes up to 280.03% at E3. Someone please do the exact calculations, but Jiaoqiu’s DoT seems to be 65% better at Gui E0 and 29% better at Gui E3. These are just the base multipliers and it ignores elemental dmg boost so the true damage might be better or worse for Jiaoqiu. I am not that good at math so please confirm or deny what I am saying.

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  9. Good, if he has DOT from e0, I’ll probably pull for him. I wasn’t going to go for e2 just to get DOT.

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