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전투 속성Class 화염
승급 재료
신용 포인트308K
생각의 가루15
인상의 파편15
격분한 심장65
욕망의 거울 조각15
행적 재료
신용 포인트3M
보리인의 송곳니18
생각의 가루41
늑대 독 송곳니69
인상의 파편56
달의 광기 이빨139
욕망의 거울 조각58
공동의 염원의 유음12
운명의 발자취8
스토리스텔라론 헌터의 멤버로, 기갑 「샘」을 입고 전투를 벌인다. 임무에 충실하고 완고한 성격이다.
곤충 떼를 물리치기 위한 무기로 태어나 성장 속도가 일반인보다 빠르지만, 수명이 매우 짧다.
「생존」의 기회를 찾기 위해 스텔라론 헌터에 합류하여 운명을 거스를 방법을 찾고 있다

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레벨공격력방어력HP속도치명타 확률치명타 피해도발에너지승급 재료
171.28105.61111045%50%125240
20139205.922161045%50%125240
신용 포인트4000
생각의 가루5
20+167.51248.162611045%50%125240
30203.15300.963161045%50%125240
신용 포인트8000
생각의 가루10
30+231.66343.23601045%50%125240
40267.33964161045%50%125240
신용 포인트16000
인상의 파편6
격분한 심장3
40+295.81438.244601045%50%125240
50331.45491.045161045%50%125240
신용 포인트40000
인상의 파편9
격분한 심장7
50+359.96533.285601045%50%125240
60395.6586.086151045%50%125240
신용 포인트80000
욕망의 거울 조각6
격분한 심장20
60+424.12628.326601045%50%125240
70459.76681.127151045%50%125240
신용 포인트160K
욕망의 거울 조각9
격분한 심장35
70+488.27723.367601045%50%125240
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레벨승급 재료
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신용 포인트4000
생각의 가루5
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신용 포인트16000
인상의 파편6
격분한 심장3
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신용 포인트40000
인상의 파편9
격분한 심장7
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신용 포인트80000
욕망의 거울 조각6
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신용 포인트160K
욕망의 거울 조각9
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전투 스킬

지령-폭연 추진지령-폭연 추진 - 일반 공격 | 단일 공격
에너지 회복 : 20
약점 격파 : 단일 공격 : 30
지정된 단일 적에게 기갑 「샘」 공격력의 만큼 화염 속성 피해를 가한다

단일 적에게 소량의 화염 속성 피해를 가한다
레벨 9
지령-천공 포격지령-천공 포격 - 전투 스킬 | 단일 공격
에너지 회복 : 0
약점 격파 : 단일 공격 : 60
자신의 HP 최대치 만큼 HP를 소모해 자신의 에너지 최대치 만큼의 에너지를 고정적으로 회복한다. 지정된 단일 적에게 기갑 「샘」 공격력의 만큼 화염 속성 피해를 가한다. 현재 HP가 부족하면 전투 스킬 발동 시 기갑 「샘」의 현재 HP가 1pt로 감소한다. 자신의 다음번 행동 게이지를  증가시킨다

자신의 일부 HP를 소모해 에너지를 회복하고, 단일 적에게 화염 속성 피해를 가한다. 자신의 다음번 행동 게이지를 증가시킨다
레벨 15
반딧불이 Type-IV•완전연소반딧불이 Type-IV•완전연소 - 필살기 | 강화
에너지 회복 : 5
약점 격파 : 0
「완전연소」 상태에 진입하고 자신의 행동 게이지가 100% 증가하며, 일반 공격 강화 및 전투 스킬 강화를 획득한다. 「완전연소」 상태에서는 속도가 pt 증가한다. 또한, 강화된 일반 공격 및 강화된 전투 스킬을 발동하면 자신의 약점 격파 효율이  증가하고, 적이 받는 격파 피해가  증가하며, 이번 공격이 끝날 때까지 지속된다.
행동 서열에 「완전연소」 카운트다운이 나타나고, 카운트다운 턴 시작 시 기갑 「샘」이 「완전연소」 상태를 해제한다. 카운트다운이 보유한 고정 속도는 이다.
기갑 「샘」은 「완전연소」 상태에서 필살기를 발동할 수 없다

「완전연소」 상태에 진입하고 자신의 행동 게이지를 100% 증가시킨다. 일반 공격 강화 및 전투 스킬 강화를 획득하고, 자신의 약점 격파 효율, 적이 받는 격파 피해, 속도가 증가하며, 카운트다운이 종료될 때까지 지속된다
레벨 15
고치형 원초 화염 중추고치형 원초 화염 중추 - 특성 | 방어
에너지 회복 : 0
약점 격파 : 0
HP가 낮을수록 받는 피해가 감소한다. HP가  이하일 경우 피해 감소 효과가 최대치에 도달하며, 최대  감소한다. 「완전연소」 상태에서는 피해 감소 효과가 최대치에 유지되며, 효과 저항이  증가한다.
전투 시작 시 에너지가  미만일 경우 에너지를 까지 회복한다. 에너지가 최대치까지 회복되면 자신의 모든 디버프 효과가 해제된다

HP가 낮을수록 받는 피해가 감소한다. 「완전연소」 상태에서는 피해 감소 효과가 최대치를 유지하며, 효과 저항이 증가한다. 전투 시작 시 에너지가 #2[i]% 미만이면 에너지가 #2[i]%까지 회복된다. 에너지가 최대치까지 회복되면 자신의 모든 디버프 효과가 해제된다
레벨 15
공격공격
에너지 회복 : 0
약점 격파 : 단일 공격 : 30
적을 공격하며, 전투 진입 후 적에게 대응하는 속성의 강인성을 소모시킨다
레벨 1
Δ지령-초토화 운석 폭격Δ지령-초토화 운석 폭격 - 비술
에너지 회복 : 0
약점 격파 : 단일 공격 : 60
공중으로 도약해 초 동안 자유롭게 이동하며, 이때 낙하 공격을 발동하면 지속 시간을 조기 종료한다. 지속 시간이 종료되면 착지해 즉시 일정 범위 내의 모든 적을 공격하고, 매 웨이브 시작 시 모든 적에게 화염 속성 약점을 추가한다, 지속 시간: 턴. 이후 모든 적에게 기갑 「샘」 공격력의 만큼 화염 속성 피해를 가한다

공중으로 도약해 자유롭게 이동하며, 수초 이동 후 낙하해 범위 내 모든 적을 공격한다. 각 웨이브 시작 시 모든 적에게 화염 속성 약점을 추가하고, 모든 적에게 화염 속성 피해를 가한다
레벨 1
반딧불이 Type-IV•뇌관 참격반딧불이 Type-IV•뇌관 참격 - 일반 공격 | 단일 공격
에너지 회복 : 0
약점 격파 : 단일 공격 : 45
자신의 HP 최대치의 만큼 HP를 회복한다. 지정된 단일 적에게 기갑 「샘」 공격력의 만큼 화염 속성 피해를 가한다

자신의 HP 일부를 회복하고 단일 적에게 화염 속성 피해를 가한다
레벨 9
반딧불이 Type-IV•데스 스타 과부하반딧불이 Type-IV•데스 스타 과부하 - 전투 스킬 | 확산
에너지 회복 : 0
약점 격파 : 단일 공격 : 90 / 확산 : 45
자신의 HP 최대치의 만큼 HP를 회복한다. 지정된 단일 적에게 화염 속성 약점을 부여한다, 지속 시간: 턴. 해당 목표에게 기갑 「샘」 공격력의 (x격파 특수효과+)만큼 화염 속성 피해를 가하고, 인접한 목표에게 기갑 「샘」 공격력의 (x격파 특수효과+)만큼 화염 속성 피해를 가한다. 격파 특수효과는 최대  계산한다

자신의 HP를 일부 회복한다. 단일 적에게 화염 속성 약점을 추가하고, 해당 적에게 대량의 화염 속성 피해를 가하며 인접한 목표에게 화염 속성 피해를 가한다
레벨 15

행적

α모듈-안티랙 아웃버스트α모듈-안티랙 아웃버스트
캐릭터를 회 승급해야 합니다 2
「완전연소」 상태에서 화염 속성 약점이 없는 적을 공격해도 강인성을 감소시킬 수 있다. 효과는 기존 스킬 강인성 감소 수치의 55%만큼이다
신용 포인트5000
보리인의 송곳니3
공동의 염원의 유음1
효과 저항 강화효과 저항 강화 (효과 저항)
캐릭터를 회 승급해야 합니다 2
효과 저항 4% 증가
신용 포인트5000
보리인의 송곳니3
생각의 가루6
격파 강화격파 강화 (격파 특수효과)
캐릭터를 회 승급해야 합니다 3
격파 특수효과 5.3% 증가
신용 포인트10000
늑대 독 송곳니3
인상의 파편3
속도 강화속도 강화 (속도)
캐릭터를 회 승급해야 합니다 3
속도 2 증가
신용 포인트10000
늑대 독 송곳니3
인상의 파편3
β모듈-자기 제어 기갑β모듈-자기 제어 기갑
캐릭터를 회 승급해야 합니다 4
「완전연소」 상태에서 기갑 「샘」의 격파 특수효과가 200%/360% 이상일 시, 약점 격파 상태의 적을 공격하면 이번 공격의 강인성 감소 수치가 35%/50%의 슈퍼 격파 피해 1회로 전환된다
신용 포인트20000
늑대 독 송곳니5
운명의 발자취1
공동의 염원의 유음1
격파 강화격파 강화 (격파 특수효과)
캐릭터를 회 승급해야 합니다 4
격파 특수효과 8% 증가
신용 포인트20000
늑대 독 송곳니5
인상의 파편4
효과 저항 강화효과 저항 강화 (효과 저항)
캐릭터를 회 승급해야 합니다 5
효과 저항 6% 증가
신용 포인트45000
달의 광기 이빨3
욕망의 거울 조각3
격파 강화격파 강화 (격파 특수효과)
캐릭터를 회 승급해야 합니다 5
격파 특수효과 8% 증가
신용 포인트45000
달의 광기 이빨3
욕망의 거울 조각3
γ모듈-과부하 코어γ모듈-과부하 코어
캐릭터를 회 승급해야 합니다 6
기갑 「샘」의 공격력이 1800pt보다 높으면 공격력이 10pt를 초과할 때마다 자신의 격파 특수효과가 0.8% 증가한다
신용 포인트160K
달의 광기 이빨8
운명의 발자취1
공동의 염원의 유음1
속도 강화속도 강화 (속도)
캐릭터를 회 승급해야 합니다 6
속도 3 증가
신용 포인트160K
달의 광기 이빨8
욕망의 거울 조각8
효과 저항 강화효과 저항 강화 (효과 저항)
캐릭터 레벨 Lv.을(를) 달성해야 합니다 75
효과 저항 8% 증가
신용 포인트160K
달의 광기 이빨8
욕망의 거울 조각8
격파 강화격파 강화 (격파 특수효과)
캐릭터 레벨 Lv.을(를) 달성해야 합니다 80
격파 특수효과 10.7% 증가
신용 포인트160K
달의 광기 이빨8
욕망의 거울 조각8
격파 강화격파 강화 (격파 특수효과)
격파 특수효과 5.3% 증가
신용 포인트2500
생각의 가루2

성혼

나는 잠들었네, 붉은 고치 안에서나는 잠들었네, 붉은 고치 안에서나는 잠들었네, 붉은 고치 안에서
강화된 전투 스킬 발동 시 목표의 방어력 15%를 무시하고, 강화된 전투 스킬은 전투 스킬 포인트를 소모하지 않는다
부서진 하늘에서 추락하며부서진 하늘에서 추락하며부서진 하늘에서 추락하며
「완전연소」 상태에서 강화된 일반 공격, 강화된 전투 스킬을 발동해 적을 처치하거나 적을 약점 격파 상태에 빠트릴 시 기갑 「샘」이 즉시 보너스 턴 1개를 획득한다. 해당 효과는 1턴 후 다시 발동할 수 있다
고요한 성하에 깊이 잠들고고요한 성하에 깊이 잠들고고요한 성하에 깊이 잠들고
전투 스킬 레벨+2, 최대 Lv.15. 일반 공격 레벨+1, 최대 Lv.10
나는 보리라, 반딧불이의 불빛을나는 보리라, 반딧불이의 불빛을나는 보리라, 반딧불이의 불빛을
[완전연소] 상태일 때 「기갑」 샘의 효과 저항이 50% 증가한다
꿈 없는 긴밤에서 비추며꿈 없는 긴밤에서 비추며꿈 없는 긴밤에서 비추며
필살기 레벨+2, 최대 Lv.15. 특성 레벨+2, 최대 Lv.15
종극의 내일에 피어나리종극의 내일에 피어나리종극의 내일에 피어나리
「완전연소」 상태에서 기갑 「샘」의 화염 속성 저항 관통이 20% 증가한다. 강화된 일반 공격, 강화된 전투 스킬 발동 시 약점 격파 효율이 50% 증가한다

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destruction-class370.44198.45846.72장착한 캐릭터가 일반 공격과 전투 스킬로 가하는 피해가 20% 증가한다
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destruction-class370.44198.45846.72장착한 캐릭터는 현재 HP 백분율이 50%보다 높은 적을 공격할 경우 가하는 피해가 20% 증가한다
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destruction-class370.44198.45846.72장착한 캐릭터의 현재 HP 백분율이 80% 미만일 경우 캐릭터의 치명타 확률이 12% 증가한다
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두더지파가 환영해
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destruction-class476.28264.61058.4장착한 캐릭터가 일반 공격, 전투 스킬 혹은 필살기를 발동하여 적을 공격하면 각 1스택의 「장난기」를 획득하며 스택마다 장착한 캐릭터의 공격력이 12% 증가한다
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destruction-class476.28264.61058.4장착한 캐릭터가 가하는 피해가 20% 증가하며, 동시에 현재 HP 백분율이 장착한 캐릭터 자신의 HP 백분율 이상인 적에게 가하는 피해가 추가로 20% 증가한다
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destruction-class476.28330.75952.56장착한 캐릭터의 공격력이 16% 증가한다. 장착한 캐릭터는 적을 처치한 후 치명타 확률이 12% 증가한다. 지속 시간: 3턴
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멍! 산책 시간!
멍! 산책 시간!4
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destruction-class476.28330.75952.56장착한 캐릭터의 공격력이 10% 증가하고, 연소나 열상 상태의 적에게 가하는 피해가 16% 증가한다. 해당 효과는 지속 피해에도 적용된다
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도망칠 곳은 없다
도망칠 곳은 없다4
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destruction-class529.2264.6952.56장착한 캐릭터의 공격력이 24% 증가한다. 장착한 캐릭터는 적을 처치할 때 자신의 공격력 12%만큼의 HP를 회복한다
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destruction-class582.12396.91164.24장착한 캐릭터의 공격력이 24% 증가한다. 장착한 캐릭터는 적을 처치하거나 피격된 후 즉시 공격력 8%만큼의 HP를 회복하고, 가하는 피해가 24% 증가하며, 자신의 다음 턴이 끝날 때까지 지속된다. 해당 효과는 중첩될 수 없으며 턴마다 1회만 발동할 수 있다
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닿을 수 없는 저편
닿을 수 없는 저편5
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destruction-class582.12330.751270.08장착한 캐릭터의 치명타 확률이 18% 증가하고, HP 최대치가 18% 증가한다. 장착한 캐릭터가 피격되거나 자신의 HP를 소모한 후 가하는 피해가 24% 증가한다. 해당 효과는 장착한 캐릭터가 공격을 발동한 후 해제된다
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  1. The devs are so determined to bind Firefly and the HTB together, they killed the possibility of Firefly’s builds without the HTB. They also leave no room for a better HTB to exist, as it is confirmed that multiple instances of super break damage trigger separately, and a better HTB only destroys the game by doubling Firefly’s aiready sky high damage.

    I’m glad of the devs’ decision in a few aspects:
    1. It is generous of a gacha game to have such a good main character, to a degree they are the kernel of a competitive team. If it was the Hoyo I know before, the HTB should have been released as a limited unit.
    2. I wish to see Firefly and the trialblazer together not only in the story but also in the actual game. Seems the devs wish the same.

      
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    • mean while over in genshin. Traveler. I can shoot bubbles now. Am I useful now?
      Sad music noises.

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    • im glad that they made her role as a pure break unit clearer though; stops people from getting confused after seeing that >500% multiplier and thinking that crit changes everything like most of the community did day 1. obv sucks that we lost critfly but it is what it is ig…

      i feel like getting a better htb will happen when support units in general get better overall, or alternatively they release a unit that only allows the character in the team with the highest break effect to super break, plus give a bunch of other break-related dmg amps to super buff the super breaks of that specific unit

      also i dont like the fire weak planar – it feels way too specific and enemy dependant to use outside of firefly. imo you could either change it to fire and physical weak – the two elements where break damage is significant – or change the activation condition to ‘when the wearer deals toughness damage’

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      • I agree, the planar sets especially are becoming more and more niche, especially since 2.0. I think the devs realized they gave us some strong universal planars with Keel and Penacony for supports and Salsotto/Rutilant/Glamoth for DPS, and are now correcting by giving us some ultra-specific ones. That way, they can give us sets that some people will want to farm for, while not powercreeping sets with each new release.

        The new fire-weak planar is the most egregious example of this, since it’s only locked to fire so they can limit the number of characters who can use it. They don’t want people to get more break effect than Talia for free, and they want to limit the number of people who see 6% speed and slap it on all of their super fast supports. It sucks that it’s so limited, but that’s why they were so confident in giving it 6% speed AND more break effect than Talia. The Izumo set is another good example of this. It’s clearly made for Acheron, and it’s hard to justify putting it on any other DPS. Sigonia?

        5 of the last 6 planars released have been super specific, so we will probably keep getting these kinds of sets in the future.

        Forge/Izumo: Discussed above
        New FU set (Duran): Gives a lot of Follow-Up dmg%, so not an upgrade over Salsotto for some characters
        Sigonia: PF Set
        Penacony: Needs support/sustain + DPS to share elements
        and then Glamoth which is a relatively universal set

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        • personally, im fine with niche relic sets if they provide nuance in teambuilding situations; for example, using glamoth vs using base speed + sparkle or pioneer promoting debuffers in a game where harmony units reign supreme, it feels nice having to make a choice between confining a unit within one team or allowing them to play multiple.

          where i draw the line, however, is enemy-dependent sets – although i would be happy with them usually, the relic grind being so tedious really discourages changing planar sets for different occasions, like the fire weak planar.

          if we were to change the activation condition to ‘whenever the wearer deals toughness damage,’ it allows more units than just firefly to reliably use it, such as boothill, xueyi, silver wolf, future toughness ignore units, while not completely powercreeping talia on support chars like hmc whod prefer to use it as a general option or a full break effect sustain like aventurine

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        • Acheron’s power level frightened me before her release and she wasn’t nerfed during the course of beta test. She got a minor buff that excess “energy” may be stored for a better experience in play. She got a specific relic set 4pc and a specific planar set 2pc for her that have high crit values in total. Seems it is the dev’s intention to make her dominant in power level wise.

          When it comes to Firefly, her initial kit did not frighten me because it wasn’t frightening. Firefly had lower upper limit than Boothill but is way easier and way more convenient to use and way more adaptive to the environment as she doesn’t ask for innate Fire weak at all. She is capable to break the enemies before they had a chance to do anything that should have threatened many other teams, leading to low interaction with the boss’s kit, and in turns, high survivability for the whole team. I took the fact that her damage output might be lower than Boothill for a purpose of balance, since her damage output is still at a high ground and she has edges other than damage. However, the devs still gave her a huge buff in damage wise, and now her damage is not any lower than Boothill while she still has the edges she had. She even has a specific relic set and planar set for her. Seems it is also the devs intention to make her dominant.

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          • While I understand your other concerns, I’m of the opinion that ease of weakness implant isn’t truly as strong of a thing that everyone seems to think it is. It’s there for ease of use when you run into enemies that aren’t weak to your element, so the break DPS can do more damage than a wet noodle in such a fight. You’re still at a maximum 80% resist modifier against such an enemy, unlike when using Silver Wolf, who additionally removes that +20% resist the enemy gets. At 80% base resist, a RM ult puts you at just 5% higher damage than fighting against an enemy that’s naturally weak to fire without her ult, so you can think of brute forcing like running RM without her ultimate. Still decent, but not ideal.

            You can still brute-force content with both Firefly and Boothill using their respective implants, and it would be safer than brute-forcing with someone who can’t defeat the toughness bars, sure. I’d say Firefly’s biggest problem in this regard is that she can both implant on the main target with her skill AND does 55% toughness to any other targets she hits. When combined together, it seems like a bit too much weakness implant/ignore capabilities.

            As for the comparison with Boothill, I initially thought E1 would get deleted or moved to a higher eidolon to give her the niche of “Destruction of SP” for her power. This would give space for higher power in her base kit by giving her a solid downside for that damage. But, it’s getting less and less likely that it’ll happen, especially after her speed buff in V3, and I don’t expect that it’s on the table anymore.

          • I acknowledge that no innate Fire weak meaning 20% base Fire res meaning fewer damage, but that doesn’t really matter. The damage is already high enough to take down an elite enemy without innate Fire weak swiftly that they never got a chance to ever recover the toughness meter once broken.

            When I say “Firefly isn’t asking for innate weakness”, I don’t mean the res part in the damage formula, I mean the accessibility to the break mechanic, which is the very fundamental prerequisite for a break DPS to be able to do any meaningful damage. Boothill still asks for innate Physical weakness ideally, not because he wants to do more damage, but instead he wants more accessibility to the break mechanic.

        • I’m glad Izumo exists because I just slapped it on Ratio and Topaz and got free crit rate for basically doing nothing. Sigonia though like who uses that even in PF?

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          • I got a few decent Sigonia pieces from the recent double relic event. Slap them on Himeko and her ice puppet aid. Got some nice results, when from 35k score to 40k. Along with clearing way faster. of course might of help, that the robin on that team is now e1 as well. For yeah my team needed the crit damage more than they needed the crit rate.

    • It’s a shame that her personal damage got sacrificed in the process.

      I wouldn’t have minded them cutting off any potential for Crit builds to solidify what she does but unfortunately, in her current state not even DMG% provides any benefit now that all her personal damage is in the 4-digits. It’s really strange when you think about the whole “powerful mech suit” thing.

      HTB’s Super Breaks were a little too impactful right off the bat, and now they’re stuck with it because they almost never go back to patch a character, and they definitely couldn’t do a nerf because it’d feel bad. Imo, HTB is free so it shouldn’t be an issue, but there will always be complaints.

      – – – For a little exercise in actual theorycrafting…

      What they could’ve done was have HTB’s SB damage start at 80%, then rescaled the A2 to add 20/27.5/35/42.5/50% directly onto the multiplier (so it scales from 100% to 130%). This is a significant change that would’ve given them ample leeway. If I were to factor in this multiplier in FF’s current v3 iteration, her damage would’ve dropped to 85.35% of what it is now (RM HTB team, single enemy).

      And so, if I start adding back some of what she lost, and then some:
      – her and her LC’s base ATK values
      – her LC’s and Ult’s Break Dmg Received back to Dmg Received, but also the older lower values
      – returning her Enh.Skill’s base multipliers and conversion rates *and then* uncap the conversion
      Then she would be dealing 92.31% compared to v3 (RM HTB team, single enemy).

      Now if I were to raise her SB multiplier to 70%, then this puts her at 99.92% compared to v3 (RM HTB team, single enemy). The damage breakdown of her Enh.Skill non-Crit / personal SB / HTB SB are:
      – 25.1k / 90.9k / 168.8k = 284.9k total for my modified FF/HTB
      – 5.8k / 66k / 211.2k = 283k total for current v3 FF

      For a 5-enemy fight, the resulting HTB SB would be 129.9k for mine and 158.4k for current v3. This changes the damage done to 245.9k and 230.2k respectively, a slight improvement all thanks to her increased personal damage.

      While I don’t have a “Crit build” sheet for her (I never bothered), I think you might see a similar trend. After all, she lost her Def Ignore so her personal damage wouldn’t really ramp up as much as it used to, but her current ATK:Break gives her more Break and thus raising her multiplier conversion, which should help bridge some of the gap. And then you’ll likely have her personal SB evening it out (or maybe even improving it) in the end.

      Alas, we’re stuck with what we have.

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      • Majong deals ~40k damage and is way higher than a satelite ion cannon, lol. For damage wise the immersion is already broken and it is no harm to break it even further.

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    • I think this is the same case with Nilou in Genshin where they release an absurdly powerful teams with restricted team members, coming with a catch that these teams’ successes can be controlled by their whim. Just like how Nilou can be countered by cryo shields, anything similar to SU Gepard’s shield or toughness protection can shut Firefly’s current team down. Unless, of course, they add new characters specifically to fix it, which we know they will be 5*.

      V2 Firefly was more faithful to destruction theme of being generalist, now she is way too specialized in one field even more than Boothill and she wasn’t even weak back then.

      While I share the sentiment of wanting Firefly and HTB to be duo, I can’t help feeling that the devs have chosen an easy way out by discarding her original design and simply choose to optimize from her best results as superbreak DPS.

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      • Nah, every team can be countered by an enemy that was specifically crafted to. It isn’t something to be worried about. Is Acheron weak because she can be easily countered by debuff immunity?

        Also, I have no interest in genshin impact. I don’t want to learn anything about its course of history and I have no idea why it has something to do with HSR. It has zero reference value.

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        • Hey now, our waifu Acheron is at least as strong as Arlan even with her ULT locked. She still has crits and atk relics so she’s not as helpless as firefly.

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        • it has a lot of reference value as a gacha rpg with a system for stats too simmilar between the two that comes from the *same* company

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  2. Love both FF and BH.
    But am i the only one who is mad/weirded by that FF Eidolon1 is BH´s E1 and E2 combined? Or that BH´s technique affects one enemy, while FF´s affects all enemies, and at start of EACH wave?
    Feels weird to me.

      
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  3. is anyone else kinda disappointed with full break firefly? Idk if it’s just me but her initial kit seemed like it was going for a hybrid crit/break dps which would be a neat gimmick (excluding boothill bc he’s effectively a break dps with a little crit buff) especially with the break eff changing the multiplier. Rn I can’t help but feel like there’s a lot of missed potential…
    *not to say her initial kit was effective as a hybrid, i can tell it wasn’t

      
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    • I am sure there are like a few dozen of you somewhere. I am sure there is also someone disappointed they can’t put her in Kafka team lol

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    • honestly I love the cuff kit and how they gave her an identity while just like acheron being hard to powercreep and also making her be able to just get better from now on just like acheron getting better with each future Nihilty unit, FF can benefit from any possible future break units. if low or high.

      and I do respect others way of playing the game but I’m kinda glad hybrid/crit fly is dead. it was never supposed to be how she was supposed to be played and Devs doubled down on it which kinda made me happy

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  4. In my country it is illegal to have pictures of nekid lolis.
    Is it possible to remove the cutscene and the voyeur cam where you see the loli without clothes?

      
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    • I mean if you did the 2.2 story you’ll see Firefly transformed with her clothes on so you could make the argument that she’s wearing clothes. Otherwise maybe there’s a mod for that?

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    • She is not a Loli. I know twitter thinks everything that is not a fat land whale is a loli but twitter is a place of brain rot, not a place of correct information. She is first off. way to tall to be a Loli. She is clearly way older than a child in terms of age and maturity. Which the camera doesn’t show anything that bad. Which you must of not seen gundam at all. They do something similar with their whole newtype thing. It used not as a sexual thing but a more spiritual thing.

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    • So how does that e2 work? She defeats a foe or weakness breaks them. gains a bonus turn. Then next turn, she is unable to trigger it again. On the third turn she is able to trigger it effect again?

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      • I swear people hang out on twitter to much these days.

        For at worst, she would be a teen. Not a child. Given, I have never seen a child that tall. Does no one understand what puberty is anymore? Again I swear this is twitter fault. Since they will call anything a child over there. Someone with a chest bigger than their head? Ah yes clearly a child. Tall as a mountain, flat as a wooden plank but clearly has adult features? Still a child.

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    • Please tell me you’re joking…. Her height would be around 155-166 CM ? are all the girls’s height in your country are 175-190 CM and considering below that are loli ?

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  5. 一个巡海游侠,还有忆者🤨

    流萤翻译:开拓者你为什么和他们在一起呀?

    就此离开,没人会受伤😀👉

    流萤翻译:皮诺康尼的梦境很危险,请赶快离开吧!

    否则,你们都会死😡👊

    流萤翻译:皮诺康尼的梦境会为你们带来死亡!

    侦探游戏结束了,你们不该出现在这里🤐

    流萤翻译:不知道,艾利欧的剧本里没写啊!

    开始清扫🤖👊

    我将,点燃大海🔥👊🤖👊🔥

    协议通过,执行焦土作战🔥👊🤖👊🔥

    等回到现实,记得告诉所有人😀👉

    是星核猎手送了你们最后一程😡👊

    流萤翻译:就让我送你们回现实吧,记得感谢星核猎手哦!

    立即处决🔥👊🤖👊🔥

    行动二,执行🤖👞🔥🔥🔥

    行动一,执行🤖👟🔥🔥🔥

    既然如此。。。🤖

    流萤翻译:既然打不过,只好先带走开拓者了!

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  6. V3 Calculation:

    Setting:
    – Firefly E0S1.
    – New Relic Sets with 0 sub-stats.
    – – ATK% cloth. SPD feet. ATK% sphere. BE% rope.
    – Base ATK: 523.91 + 476.28 = 1000.19
    – ATK: Base * (1+43.2%*2) + 352 = 2216.35
    – Teammate:
    – – Ruan Mei. E0.
    – – HTB. E4+. In battle with Ult 300% Break Effect (4 Watchmaker + 2 Talia).

    Break Effect (At team DPS phase (All ultimate is activated)):
    – Minion Traces: 37.3%
    – Sig LC (s1): 60%
    – Major Trace (Module Gamma): 2216.35 -> exceed 616.35 -> 60%
    – New Relic set (Iron Cavalry Against the Scourge): 16%
    – New Relic set (Forge of the Kalpagni Lantern): 40%
    – BE rope: 64.8%
    – Teammate:
    – – Ruan Mei: 20%
    – – HTB: 300%*15% + 30% + 30% = 105%

    Total: 403.1%
    In case someone hate HTB in Firefly team: 298.1%

    Quick Reference:
    Trace (Module Beta) requirement: (200% -> 35% 🍞) / (360% -> 50% 🍞).
    Relic Set (Iron Cavalry Against the Scourge) requirement: (150% BE -> 10% Break RES PEN) / (250% -> plus 15% 🍞 RES PEN).

    Speed (At team DPS phase (All ultimate is activated)):
    – Base: 104
    – Minion Traces: 5
    – SPD feet: 25
    – Ultimate: 60
    – New Relic set (Forge of the Kalpagni Lantern): 6% -> 104*6% = 6.24
    – Teammate – Ruan Mei: 10% -> 104*10% = 10.4

    Total: 210.64

    Quick Reference:
    Ult countdown: 70
    Action times = ceil(SPD / Countdown SPD) = 4

    You don’t need to worry about sub-stats for Breakfly after v3 changes. bruh.

      
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    • Another thoughts about v3:
      With no cap for conversion ATK => BE.. And base of ~1000 ATK. Any buffs to ATK% give same BE% buff at same time.
      Example: Asta up to 70% ATK buff, will give +70% BE at same time, even Robin ult ATK buff (~1200+) will give at same time 120%+ BE in addition to ATK.. Increaseing both direct and 🍞 damage parts of her enchanced skill at same time.
      And any ATK% substast give BE% at same time (just a bit less than direct BE% substats).

      So they may be not so perfect as HTB or Ruan, but any ATK buffers still works fine with her (unlike with other Break damage characters where ATK looks compleatly useless)

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      • Nah, Robin’s attack bonus can’t be converted into break effect, because the buff itself is converted from Robin’s attack, and a converted buff can’t be converted again. The same rule applies when Sparkle skills Bronya and Bronya ults.

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  7. some questions
    can we say 50% superbreak from her kit is equal to 50% of HMC superbreak damage?
    does firefly 50% superbreak affected by HMC dance with the one trace?

      
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    • depending on how much 25 spd or around 40 BE (or less depending on how much atk you have past 1600) would matter.

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    • 25 speed is exactly what she needs to get 4 turns during her Ulti…
      So if you do not have 25 speed in sub stats SPD boots are very worth it.

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    • Absolutely. With Ruan Mei, the new planar and speed boots, this is your total speed during combustion

      107 * (1 + 0.06 + 0.1) + 25 + 5 + 60 = 214,12

      210 is the speed breakpoint to reach 4 actions in combustion state, you are given this for free. Not having your fourth action would be a pretty big drop to your DPS, so sacrificing an action for more BE is already out of the question. When you have no speed substats to focus on, you can focus on getting BE and ATK% substats instead. Straight up looking for BE + ATK substats, (which are more common than speed) will give you more total BE, compared to using ATK% boots while looking for ~10ish average speed substats to reach the 210 breakpoint.

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    • if you manage to get 25 spd (approximate 13 spd rolls) then sure you can go atk% boots
      but that also means you are trading BE and atk% rolls for spd that you would easily get on a spd boots

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    • I hope there is,
      since this update making her skill useless and dont need to leveling
      they might as well remove the enhance state of skill and notthing change

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      • Per my estimation, Firefly’s E1 is more like a pay-for-damage rather than a QoL despite it looks like it is. The comp of HTB + RM + Gallagher is rich in SP and should be sufficient to feed a hungry Firefly. The E1 allows the HTB to skill very often, leading to high energy regen and frequent ult, and frequent S5 DDD, and more turns for Firefly, and… well, more damage. You can even furtherly replace Gallagher with Asta, who may also wield a copy of S5 DDD.

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        • While I agree that in her current best teams it’s basically just 15% def shred, plus more HTB skills, does S5 DDD really give Firefly more turns?

          210 speed just barely gets you to 4 turns in ult, and DDD is a 24% advance, so outside of higher speeds with the aim of 0-cycling, I don’t see it having an impact? I’m also saying this as someone who only recently got DDD, so this could be something I’m just too poor to understand.

          The way I see it, S1 is higher personal damage for Firefly and frees up Aeon for any other destruction character that would want it. E1 gives less personal damage but allows your teammates to use more SP, and especially for HTB to skill more often.

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          • I’m still investigate if Asta + S5 DDD could give her more turns. It seems a bit harder than v2 even the countdown is slower.

            However, you can put Bronya in your team. As long as the countdown is at 70 SPD. If Bronya has a 140+ SPD, which should be quite easy, she can advanced firefly twice during the ult. In this case you may want E1 instead of S1 since firefly may use at most 6 skills in cycle. :p

            btw, you can’t do the same thing with Sparkle.

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