76 responses to “长夜月”

1. So, I went in coma from this game due to Slopphoreus boring me to death + not interested in Shartoji reusing his old story where he peaked because he is one huge uncreative hack that can only do one storyline, and I come back because I hear that my girl M7 is finally getting a 5* then I see this….
   I know that Mary Suelysia or whatever her name is in this game won’t flop. Not because anyone in HSR gives a single damn about her like those 10 autistic HI3 players who still play their shitty dead game, but because HSR devs will shill the living hell out of her and nothing sells like shilling and meta (see Blandrice and Temu Lucilius), but at the same time I do hope that she does because fuck Shartoji with cactus. Not only did he forever ruin this game with his stupid OCs that he keeps forcing down everyone’s throat, but one character I waited for almost 2 years to see an alt of clearly got shafted to make sure his Mary Sue pet doesn’t get overshadowed. Fuck him and fuck every single shitty character ever produced by him. All of them suck anyway.

   Come and cry in replies if you wish, I don’t give a shit. Am glad I completely got cold over this game. Now I can hit delete button since the only thing that somewhat made me think of this game, turned out to be huge shit due to HI3 shitty devs trying to force their boring OCs everywhere all the time until people start giving a single fuck for them!

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   • objectively correct on all accounts, pure kino comm

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   • how is elysia mary sue and how is evernight in the shadow of her y’all literally just hear a word and go with it. please research what mary sue means and look up what characters are considered one

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     • Not him, but to answer your question: Everything about Elysia was always about how awesome she was and how much everyone loves her. She has no true flaws. She was just perfect and everyone loves her. Constantly getting shoved in your face of how you too must love her and care about her. Also the most important character. Literally Honkai Jesus. Common. She was the very definition of a Mary Sue. From being most special, to having no flaws, to everyone always loving her, and everything telling you how much she should be loved because she is a literal Jesus.

       Cyrene, so far at least, doesn’t fit this though. Well, at least in terms of screentime. Which honestly makes it worst because, the moment that she came into the plot the very first thing about her was Shaoji trying to make Firefly 2.0, but Elysia edition this time around. Which is way worse as Elysia, despite being boring miss perfect, was a character first and foremost. I don’t get the same feeling with Cyrene whose sole purpose seems to be just nostalgia bait (reusing whatever character/plot made Elysia loved), while targeting waifu demographic with the cheapest pandering possible in which you two totally care about each the most 😛

       Tl;dr: Elysia was a Mary Sue, but one that made sense to be one. Cyrene is AliExpress Elysia and peak Hoyo greed in trying to bank on Elysia nostalgia for anyone dumb enough to fall for it twice.

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2. what are best relic stats for her? I was her skill so crit dmg, then hp. does she need speed or crit rate?

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   • best relic set for her is new one that give buff for memosprite – or one of old that buffed hp

     main stats is hp% > crit rate > crit damage

     her main stat is hp soo she need a lot of it and you want to get hp% in all set as one of main/low stats – her crit damage will be cool passively if you create mono-rem soo its not soo important at real – crit rate will make your crit work always soo you need it and cause she have her own bust for it you need only coat with crit rate as main stat and it will be narly 100% already

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3. She is not f2p friendly and totally not Anaxa 2.0, Don’t let those low cost Gallagher showcase video fool you from the fact that it is the most RNG run ever with most ridiculous relic stats ever.
   Anaxa can usable with almost any support even 4* while she stucking with Rmc, Hyacine, Tribbie. Oh She can’t heal herself too so She can’t use sustainless.
   Overload in Crit Dmg or dmg% doesn’t matter when she also have weak multiple so in long run she will be worse than Mydei just like Jingliu 500 Crit Dmg still worse than Jing Yuan 200 Crit Dmg due to low multiple.

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   • sometihn tell me that you dont understand what f2p-friendly really mean )))

     f2p-friendly mean that you can get character without pay real money + you can play him/her as you like – yes I know that she want to have other 5* in her team but its not argument cause ALL characters in game want to get some 5* in their teams except maybe Hook and Natasha

     you one of this strange guys who think that f2p-friendly = must be free gift like Archer + must be strong as Acheron with ANY team? )))

     one fun fact – ANYONE can get her free with just using pulls BUT you not must do it if you not want – free choice for everyone – guy who love to play through mono-rem will pull her – others can skip

     and some words about using characters – with some luck on set stats and good LC you can make Velt deal 120-500K damage – if you want you can make ANY character strong – but you not want to work on it cause you this type of guys who prefer to cry )

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     • It never gets old to see people like this starting with “you don’t understand what X means” and the giving wrong definition, showing they have absolutely no idea what they’re talking about.

       F2P frienedly are units that require little to no no effort to be perfectly usable and strong. A unit that needs copies or other limited characters to work are NOT f2p friendly. You don’t understand the difference between a game and a unit being f2p friendly.

       “you one of this strange guys who think that f2p-friendly = must be free gift like Archer”
       Nonwhere does he even complain that you need to pull for her unlike for Archer. You’re putting things in his mouth. Your entire comment has nothing to do with what the guy says. It’s like yo read first few words and produced this barf of a comment in response.

       Next time, don’t reply at all if you’re gonna be such a poor reader.

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       • soooooo you tell me that f2p guys CANT get limited characters??? we talking about same game???

         difference between a game and f2p-friendly? please explain to me this difference – for me if I can get somethin in game and use it as I want without using money it is f2p-friendly – you think that only 4* f2p-friendly? or you think only OP characters f2p-friendly? – please explain to me your position my dear Great Reader )))

         and about strong characters – ANY character can be strong if you spend some time and use some brains – but I think for you its not f2p-friendly ) – if you just want only OP characters who is strong without any work from player you must just save some pulls adn get Phae e6c5 on rerun and be happy with how f2p-friendly he is )

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   • She’s a specialized dps/support for remembrance and doesn’t even have a full team.
     Aglaea needs too much to keep her ult up to fit in extra remembrance units atm, and her damage is pretty split between her and her sprite.
     Cas is a good teammate, that synergizes with Evernight’s HP consumption, is Crit focused, and the majority of her damage is coming from her sprite.
     RMC is focused on hypercarries, not multi-dps comps, and mem’s damage is negligible.
     Hyacine is a good teammate, she gets 100% CR for free, and her non-negligible damage is coming from her sprite.

     Also:
     Saying Anaxa can be used with 4*s is like saying Cas can be used with Arlan. There’s a difference between Serval ult-spam for The Herta and simply having a character that fits the needed condition sitting next to a character that’s strong alone.
     Evernight has fewer teammates and no 4*s because there are no 4* remembrance
     Her multipliers aren’t weak?
     Every one of your comparisons are apples to oranges: Evernight doesn’t scale off of getting hit in the face like Mydei, and Mydei doesn’t buff his teammates. JY is an AOE focused unit, JL isn’t, and neither are beating each other at their own game.

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     • you right at all except 1 thing – RMC is a good support for other supports – at real I dont know its hidden mechanic or just developers mistake soo it can be fixed soon but now its working – I test supports who give some % of their own crit to other teammates and find that RMC can somehow upgrade this %

       what I mean – when normal supports up crit its include only their own crit without bonuses BUT it can include bonus from RMC passive

       soo he is not good only for hypercarry – he is good second-support for crit-based teams – right now best for Darkness

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       • It’s like 48% CD, it’s not nothing but we’re talking about half of Therta on a dedicated support. Compared to the AA and 30% true damage it’s pennies.

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         • its nearly 70% that he give to team passive when Memo is on field + 20-30% that Darkness will give to team with his bust on her soo its nearly 100% CD for team + 65% from Darkness cause she get mono-rem with him – Cyrene can be beter we will know soon – but right now RMC is the best possible support for mono-rem team with Darkness

     • Im not doompost her that she bad, She’s Therta but HP scaling and good for PF but she totally not Anaxa level of broken.
       She can’t be called Anaxa 2.0 if she needs S1 and Hyacine minimum to do what Anaxa E0S0 can with Tingyun, RMC, Pela.
       Her multipliers is on lower side and that’s a bad thing.
       My comparison are not about playstyle but the multiplier itself. Jingliu used to be better than Jing Yuan because she can self-buff a lot of crit dmg but when hp inflation hit and Sunday is out, Sunday’s CD buff not upgrade JL much since she already overload in CD and her multipliers are weak. JY however, high multipliers but no CD so he gets better with Sunday. Multipliers can’t be change but CD and dmg% can be with new supports. 200 CD JY > 500 CD JL
       Same will eventually happen with Mydei and Evernight.

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       • guy you tell me somethin weird 0_0

         NOONE call Darkness “Anaxa 2.0” – you the first I myself see in the internet who call her like that

         and I dont tell you that she is some kind of OP – I just try to explain that she like any other character can be strong and cool with right team and some kind of luck

         and one more thing about f2p-friendly – Bailu/Lynx is all Darkness need if you not want to create mono-rem – Anaxa too can be played with 4* as you say before – but he can deal beter damage if you give him Tribbie/Jade/THerta/Cerydra

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       • I have no idea why people call her Anaxa 2.0. Therta is a bit closer but that’s still kind of off the mark.
         She’s remembrance Kafka – A dps in her own right, and a support, but only for a specific niche.
         Her multipliers aren’t weak, stop saying that. Her Ult is 200% AOE, and her sprite detonate is ~200% to main target (more based on how many stacks you have). That’s sitting at double Mydei’s enhanced skill, about a third more than his ult, but a third less than his godslayer be god.
         I get your point about stat saturation, but Mydei’s not in that camp. He gets 48%CR, 0% CD, 0% DMG from his base kit.
         Also, don’t say base multipliers can never be changed – True damage, superbreak, and things like Hysilens’ E1 multiplier didn’t used to exist. The concept of increasing a unit’s base multiplier by a small amount is definitely on the table, as it’d make a support who’s better with characters that have a lot of steroids, while not making those with high base multipliers broken.

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         • maaaan (or girl) you make my day

           you goddamn right – you begin to talk and I understand that you too know that characters deserve some respect – you know it cause only guy or girl who respect characters can know and understand things you talkin about – others dont want to give attention to it

           so now I respect you – no soo much as Ham and Cheese sandwich but you get second place after him

           P.S. HAIL KAFKA! )))

   • funny how gooner trying so hard to doompost her even tho she’s broken powercrept unit, she powercreep Mydei and The Herta!
     if you’re being rational or logical she should be nerfed instead! The fact this is just the start of Castor oil shilled team with the upcoming Midrene to complete the Gooner Team ever only second after Midfly

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4. Three nerfs in a row despite the fact that she wasn’t exactly all that great to begin with. Low quality combat animations, probably due to them saving their budget for Cyrene. If she had Quantum weakness implant or something, these issues could be dismissed, but as it stands, I see no reason to use her over Tribbie in a Castorice comp.

   So the BiS Remembrance team going forward will likely be: Castorice + Hyacine + Cyrene + Tribbie

   Unless of course Cyrene requires 4 Remembrance units in the team to even function (which I highly doubt). It really depresses me that they would sabotage March’s kit so badly. She’s easily my favorite of the Astral Express crew, not to mention the poster-girl for the game. I imagine she will get a TRUE powerful 5-star form in some far-off planet, maybe like version 7.X or something. But as it stands, this is quite literally the most disappointed I’ve ever been with a new character. I have the premium Castorice team with multiple constellations for every member+ their sig lightcones, but I’m still skipping Evernight. They failed with this kit and March deserved way better than this…

   (Honestly, I’m so bitter about this, I might even skip Cyrene. I mean, my team is already fully functional and extremely OP as is. I heard they were supposedly going to ditch Cyrene’s current story model for that one that looks like Elysia from Honkai Impact 3rd. You know, the one they showed off in the teaser on the official Youtube channel. I don’t mind that design being limited to her Ultimate (kinda like Phainon), but if she looks like Elysia all the time, I’ll be very, VERY disappointed. All the emotional moments occurred with Cyrene’s cute younger form, so it would really suck if that model gets no representation in her actual combat animations. Heck, even Mem got full representation with RMC.)

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   • OP is not gonna like what they see with the leaked ‘Cyrene’ animations…

     I stopped playing HSR ever since i got my last character Sunday when he officially released.Loved the game but it slowly made me bitter by the amount of time you’d put into it just for yaps, litte rewards, no understanding unless you play HI3rd from top to bottom and then them pouring soo much love and money into characters like Castorice who really and truly didn’t deserve. It felt like many characters were overshadowed by these new patches/stories, characters that were unique and had a telling tale barley had screentime or anything proper to show(I’m talking about you Boothill,Acheron and THE Herta) who now feel forgotten. You’d be even taking second glances to realize that they are actually apart of HSR by the amount of overshadowing they have + i really hated how they’d just plop some random character(Rappa) as some filler so they can pour more time into more important characters.(those same important characters then also get overshadowed so theres no point)

     This is one of the reason i despised Hoyoverse and thankfully quit playing Gacha games all together. I was tired of putting energy not only into farming materials but virtual currencies for a character(F2P btw) which i would spend hours like some 9/11 job just for them to push them aside and get powercreept in the next coming months. i mean look at what happened to Acheron! Idrc abt her but i think she only got like 3-5 months to be OP before Firefly came in. It didn’t take long for her hype to die so quickly which shocked me considering how(like usual) Hoyo must add some sort of HI3rd character/reference to any game they make and HI3rd players go CRAZY over it.

     My life became waayy healthier ever since i left the Gacha community and focused on more important things. I’m tired of having high expectations then getting disappointed by the Devs decision and the saddest part is they don’t listen and neither do they care. (This next part is gonna be unrelated to HSR BTW but i rlly like collecting Guys/husbandos but sadly every gacha game can ‘only’ make money by selling sexualized female characters(Like Canterella from Wuwa) so i just learnt that fighting it ain’t going to do anything if Hoyo — rather, Gacha games in general aren’t going to listen to begin with so i just left. Not to be rude since everyone finds an escape thru smth/gladness, but once the game ends(if it even does) people will realize that they spent millions on virtual characters that will just sit there on their acc :/

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5. So, evil March honestly has pretty good damage amp for her support role.

   it’s just that role is “buffing Rememberance damage dealers specifically” and there are only two of those in the game right now. One of which being Aglaea who has very specific needs.

   I think she’ll look a lot better when we have more of them… which also means that it’s fine to wait for a rerun to evaluate.

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   • only two of them?

     Somehin tells me that you dont know what damage MC and Hyacinte can deal with ultimates + they basically best options for mono-rem team that Darkness want

     soooo at real Aglaea stay outside and other 4 rem-characters create best team that have 1 main-dd + 3 sup-dd + 2 suports + 2 healers + 1 action advancer + 1 taunt-unit + ALL of them have crit 150-300%

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   • Maybe she will remplace Sunday in Aglaea teams and Cyrene will remplace RMC ? I thought Cyrene release will makes Evernight’s totally useless 😂

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     • thing that you say explain how low your knowlege about characters

       1) Sunday CANT be replased from Aglaea team cause he give her ult energy + more actions

       2) Cyrene release will make Darkness even stronger cause she will be one more support who can be added to mono-rem team

       3) noone can replace RMC cause he have one cool hidden mechanic that is lowly possible be added to other characters in future

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