
![]() | Concepts | Black Swan |
Faction | Garden of Recollection | |
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Chinese | 杨梦露 | |
English | Arryn Zech | |
Korean | 김하영 | |
Japanese | 生天目仁美 | |
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Story | A Memokeeper of the Garden of Recollection. An indolent and mysterious soothsayer. “Remembrance” of men are hers to heed, threads of fate are hers to tug. |
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Stats
Level | ATK | DEF | HP | SPD | CRIT Rate | CRIT DMG | Taunt | Energy | Character Materials |
1 | 89.76 | 66 | 148 | 102 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 120 | |
20 | 175.03 | 128.7 | 288 | 102 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 120 | ![]() ![]() |
20+ | 210.94 | 155.1 | 347 | 102 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 120 | |
30 | 255.82 | 188.1 | 421 | 102 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 120 | ![]() ![]() |
30+ | 291.72 | 214.5 | 480 | 102 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 120 | |
40 | 336.6 | 247.5 | 554 | 102 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 120 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
40+ | 372.5 | 273.9 | 614 | 102 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 120 | |
50 | 417.38 | 306.9 | 687 | 102 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 120 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
50+ | 453.29 | 333.3 | 747 | 102 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 120 | |
60 | 498.17 | 366.3 | 821 | 102 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 120 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
60+ | 534.07 | 392.7 | 880 | 102 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 120 | |
70 | 578.95 | 425.7 | 954 | 102 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 120 | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
70+ | 614.86 | 452.1 | 1013 | 102 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 120 | |
80 | 659.74 | 485.1 | 1087 | 102 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 120 |
Skill
![]() | Percipience, Silent Dawn - Basic ATK | Single Target |
Energy Regeneration : 20 | |
Weakness Break : Single Target : 30 | |
Deals Wind DMG equal to Deals minor Wind DMG to a single enemy and has a chance of applying Arcana to the target. After attacking a target that suffers Wind Shear, Bleed, Burn, or Shock, there is respectively a chance of additionally applying Arcana. | |
Level | |
![]() | Decadence, False Twilight - Skill | Blast |
Energy Regeneration : 30 | |
Weakness Break : Single Target : 60 / Blast : 30 | |
Deals Wind DMG equal to Deals minor Wind DMG to a single enemy target and any adjacent targets, with a high chance of inflicting Arcana on the targets and lowering their DEF. | |
Level | |
![]() | Bliss of |
Energy Regeneration : 5 | |
Weakness Break : AoE : 60 | |
Inflicts Epiphany on all enemies for While afflicted with Epiphany, enemies take Deals Wind DMG equal to Inflicts Epiphany on all enemies, increasing the DMG the targets take in their turn. Additionally, having Arcana is regarded as having Wind Shear, Bleed, Burn, and Shock. Furthermore, Arcana will not reset its stacks after causing DMG at the start of the next turn. Deals Wind DMG to all enemies. | |
Level | |
![]() | Loom of Fate's Caprice - Talent | Impair |
Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
Weakness Break : 0 | |
Every time an enemy target receives DoT at the start of each turn, there is a While afflicted with Arcana, enemy targets receive Wind DoT equal to Only when Arcana causes DMG at the start of an enemy target's turn, Black Swan triggers additional effects based on the number of Arcana stacks inflicted on the target: When there are When there are When an enemy target receives DoT at the start of each turn, there is a chance for it to be inflicted with Arcana. They receive Wind DoT at the start of the turn, and Black Swan triggers additional effects based on the number of Arcana stacks. | |
Level | |
![]() | Attack |
Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
Weakness Break : Single Target : 30 | |
Attacks an enemy, and when the battle starts, reduces their Toughness of the corresponding Type. | |
![]() | From Façade to Vérité - Technique | Enhance |
Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
Weakness Break : 0 | |
After this Technique is used, there is a After this Technique is used, at the start of the next battle, there is a high chance for each enemy to be inflicted with Arcana repeatedly until Arcana fails to be inflicted. | |
Traces
![]() | Viscera's Disquiet |
Requires Character Ascension 2 | |
After using Skill to attack one designated enemy that has Wind Shear, Bleed, Burn, or Shock, each of these debuffs respectively has a | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() | DMG Boost: Wind (Wind DMG Boost) |
Requires Character Ascension 2 | |
Wind DMG increases by | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() | ATK Boost (ATK) |
Requires Character Ascension 3 | |
ATK increases by | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() | Effect Hit Rate Boost (Effect Hit Rate) |
Requires Character Ascension 3 | |
Effect Hit Rate increases by | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() | Goblet's Dredges |
Requires Character Ascension 4 | |
When an enemy target enters battle, there is a Every time an enemy target receives 1 instance of DoT during a single attack by an ally, there is a | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() | ATK Boost (ATK) |
Requires Character Ascension 4 | |
ATK increases by | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() | DMG Boost: Wind (Wind DMG Boost) |
Requires Character Ascension 5 | |
Wind DMG increases by | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() | ATK Boost (ATK) |
Requires Character Ascension 5 | |
ATK increases by | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() | Candleflame's Portent |
Requires Character Ascension 6 | |
Increases this unit's DMG by an amount equal to | ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() | Effect Hit Rate Boost (Effect Hit Rate) |
Requires Character Ascension 6 | |
Effect Hit Rate increases by | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() | DMG Boost: Wind (Wind DMG Boost) |
Requires Character Lv. 75 | |
Wind DMG increases by | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() | ATK Boost (ATK) |
ATK increases by | ![]() ![]() |
![]() | ATK Boost (ATK) |
Requires Character Lv. 80 | |
ATK increases by | ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Eidolons
![]() | Seven Pillars of Wisdom | ![]() |
While Black Swan is active in battle, enemies afflicted with Wind Shear, Bleed, Burn, or Shock will have their corresponding Wind, Physical, Fire, or Lightning RES respectively reduced by |
![]() | Weep Not For Me, My Lamb | ![]() |
When an enemy target afflicted with "Arcana" is defeated, there is a |
![]() | As Above, So Below | ![]() |
Skill Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. Talent Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. |
![]() | In Tears We Gift | ![]() |
While in the Epiphany state, enemy targets have their Effect RES reduced by |
![]() | Linnutee Flyway | ![]() |
Ultimate Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. Basic ATK Lv. +1, up to a maximum of Lv. |
![]() | Pantheon Merciful, Masses Pitiful | ![]() |
When an enemy target is attacked by Black Swan's teammates, Black Swan has a Every time Black Swan inflicts "Arcana" on an enemy target, there is a |
Light Cones
Concepts | Rarity | Path | ATK | DEF | HP | Skill | Character Materials | |
![]() | Void | 3![]() ![]() ![]() | nihility-class![]() | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | At the start of the battle, the wearer's Effect Hit Rate increases by | ![]() ![]() |
![]() | Loop | 3![]() ![]() ![]() | nihility-class![]() | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | Increases DMG dealt from its wearer to Slowed enemies by | ![]() ![]() |
![]() | Hidden Shadow | 3![]() ![]() ![]() | nihility-class![]() | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | After using Skill, the wearer's next Basic ATK deals Additional DMG equal to | ![]() ![]() |
![]() | Good Night and Sleep Well | 4![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | nihility-class![]() | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | For every debuff the target enemy has, the DMG dealt by the wearer increases by | ![]() ![]() |
![]() | Eyes of the Prey | 4![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | nihility-class![]() | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | Increases the wearer's Effect Hit Rate by | ![]() ![]() |
![]() | Resolution Shines As Pearls of Sweat | 4![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | nihility-class![]() | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | When the wearer hits an enemy and if the hit enemy is not already "Ensnared," then there is a | ![]() ![]() |
![]() | Fermata | 4![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | nihility-class![]() | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | Increases the wearer's Break Effect by | ![]() ![]() |
![]() | We Will Meet Again | 4![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | nihility-class![]() | 529.2 | 330.75 | 846.72 | After the wearer uses Basic ATK or Skill, deals Additional DMG equal to | ![]() ![]() |
![]() | Before the Tutorial Mission Starts | 4![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | nihility-class![]() | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | Increases the wearer's Effect Hit Rate by | ![]() ![]() |
![]() | In the Name of the World | 5![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | nihility-class![]() | 582.12 | 463.05 | 1058.4 | Increases the wearer's DMG to debuffed enemies by | ![]() ![]() |
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Overworld
Combat
Voice
Language
Title | loc_sound |
First Meeting | |
Greeting | |
Parting | |
About Self: Existence | |
About Self: Wishes | |
Chat: Divination Methods | |
Chat: Light Cone | |
Hobbies | |
Annoyances | |
Sharing: Pure Land | |
Sharing: Memetic Entity | |
Knowledge | |
About Trailblazer | |
About Acheron | |
About Aventurine | |
About Sparkle | |
About March 7th | |
Eidolon Activation | |
Character Ascension | |
Max Level Reached | |
Trace Activation | |
Added to Team With Trailblazer | |
Added to Team With Sparkle | |
Added to Team With March 7th | |
Added to Team With Acheron | |
Added to Team With Aventurine | |
Battle Begins: Weakness Break | |
Battle Begins: Danger Alert | |
Turn Begins 1 | |
Turn Begins 2 | |
Turn Idling | |
Basic ATK | |
Skill 1 | |
Skill 2 | |
Hit by Light Attack | |
Hit by Heavy Attack | |
Ultimate: Activate | |
Ultimate: Unleash | |
Downed | |
Return to Battle | |
Health Recovery | |
Technique | |
Battle Won | |
Treasure Opening 1 | |
Treasure Opening 2 | |
Precious Treasure Opening | |
Successful Puzzle-Solving 1 | |
Successful Puzzle-Solving 2 | |
Enemy Target Found | |
Returning to Town |
Story
Title | Text |
n/a | A Memokeeper of the Garden of Recollection. A mysterious and elegant soothsayer. She often wears a warm smile and is willing to patiently listen to the words of others, thus using such means as a pretext to enter "memories" and gain omniscience over certain matters. A lady passionate about collecting unique memories, yet the thoughts that guide her are hard to glean. |
n/a | "She's quite an unusual kid, and I could sense it from the day she was born. It felt like nature itself was celebrating her arrival: The birds chirped, the moon and sun were together in the sky. The cards in my hand seemed to hint at the emergence of a soul steeped in nostalgia. Right from her early years, she had a fascination with stories from the past. She would delve deep into contemplating our origins, our creators, and even the very beginning of the world. Her questions would leave even the most erudite scholars scratching their heads. Sure, some other kids might poke fun at her for asking such deep questions, but aren't those questions important? Life is akin to a winding labyrinth, where memories serve as our sole companions." Afflicted with amnesia, her mother struggled with forgetfulness, making it difficult for her to recognize her family or recall recent events. Clutching the diagnosis of amnesia, she held her mother tightly, attempting to read aloud from the latter's diary. Her mother was physically present, but where was she in the realm of consciousness? She stayed by her mother's side until the end of her life, realizing that her mother had been fading away as her memories became fragmented. If her own memories of her mother were to ever become blurred as well, her mother would completely slip away from her. "Life is akin to a winding labyrinth, where memories serve as our sole companions." For the first time, she comprehended the profound meaning behind these words. * Unlocked at Character Level |
n/a | "I arrived on this planet as an explorer. My usual tasks involved observing the flow of rivers, examining the materials of the city's bricks and tiles, analyzing the steepness of roads, and documenting the number and distribution of chimneys... These duties aligned with people's imagination of preserving a planet's 'memories.'" — However, such efforts were far from sufficient. Once I started working in secrecy, I would often come across that girl. Sometimes, sunlight would dance through the leaves as she walked beneath them, disappearing around corners once the street lamps illuminated the surroundings. On other occasions, her gaze would follow a carrier pigeon, which left the High Priest's quarters every Wednesday night, only to return the following morning to the palace's chief of the guards — a known political adversary of the High Priest. Occasionally, she would quietly observe rain trickling into sewers scarred by artillery fired from the opposite shore. And sometimes, waves would dampen her skirts, while an elderly woman washing clothes by the river recounted the story of the previous sovereign and his five illegitimate children. — Few individuals, apart from us, understand that a planet conceals and safeguards its "memories" in such a manner. I trailed behind her until we reached a rock on the moor. I knew that it was the time to invite her. "What do you see?" I asked, in a form visible to her. She pointed at a patch of weeds and the lingering traces. "I see a stone, perhaps once part of a fireplace... But it must hold more significance." I nodded and assisted her in removing the weeds and dirt from the crevices of the stone. "It was once a monument," she murmured, gently caressing the engravings adorning its surface. "Indeed, but the 'memory' holds more significance." Thus, I revealed to her that the stone on the moor had once served as a fireplace, a monument before that, a flowerbed, and even an altar... And before all that, it had simply been a stone on the moor. "What price would I pay if I want to witness those 'memories'?" "People will remain oblivious to your presence unless you are willing to reveal yourself." "Just as people fail to acknowledge the existence of black swans until they encounter one?" "Yes, just like that." Memokeepers travel to numerous planets, collecting the memories of each city they encounter. They are careful not to leave any trace of their presence, ensuring that nobody remembers them, unless they come across someone with the potential to become a Memokeeper, whom they then take away from the city into the vast expanse of the stars. * Unlocked at Character Level |
n/a | Many individuals obsess over the glory of the past and aspire to become Memokeepers, longing to live within their memories. Such individuals often degenerate into unbridled Cremators, distorting memories to suit their preferences. However, she is different... I've sensed her unwavering determination and profound respect for memories themselves. Following tradition, I asked her three questions before making her a Memokeeper. "Will you dedicate your whole life to the collection of memories?" "I will." "Will you relinquish your physical form and embrace the transformation of self?" "I will." "If one day you cease to exist, what legacy will you leave behind for the world?" "My memories. They hold seeds from the past, destined for rebirth into the future." Memories come in various forms. Some are trivial and heartwarming, while others are grand and expansive. Some are gentle and meek, while others are wild and untamed... When she became a Memokeeper, her memories became tranquil and serene, like the calm waves that finally found their destined harbor. "What comes to your mind?" The Memokeeper asked. As she opened her eyes, fragments of memories swirled around her. "People tend to believe they are facing the present and the future, yet fail to realize that we are all, in fact, moving toward the past." * Unlocked at Character Level |
n/a | Location: Penacony Date: ██/██/██ Guests: ██, ██, ██, and ██ "A sorrowful memory from ██. This opulent memory, adorned with ostentation and longing, conceals an unknown sadness that will linger for years, influencing its owner for an extended period." "A joyous memory from ██. This dramatic memory is filled with vibrant hues of joy, confusion, and humor, but it can hardly be called true happiness. Such is the future it portrays." "A regrettable memory from ██. The fleeting happiness in this memory is beautiful yet short-lived, like a shooting spark from faded ashes. Cherish your limited moment, dear guest, for it informs me that it shall soon vanish." "A vague memory from ██. This memory is faint, chaotic, and disorienting, akin to an endless downpour with no respite in sight. I yearn to capture the future it points to, whether it be filled with rain or sunshine..." "I saw the figure of a woman, gracefully leaping and transforming amidst images and patterns. No... I'm not crazy, I did indeed see 'her.' I remember her voice, its velvety texture, and the colorful cards in her hands, imbued with some sort of magic... Oh, and she invited me to partake in fortune-telling. She said, 'Whether you want to foresee happiness or misfortune in the future, retrieve lost possessions, or seek unexpected gains... All I need is an honest story, for the past and the future are overlapped on the same point of a single circle.' My head spun, and she exuded such gentleness. I talked so much to her, and she patiently listened to my ramblings... And then, following her divination results, I retrieved a lost mirror for a guest of the hotel! Oh, you asked what I said to her? Oh, nothing important... Just some rumors about the past..." Currently, she journeys through various realms as a diviner, uncovering memories intertwined with her Path and Aeons. She believes that those memories are as enduring as gems, impervious to the eroding forces of oblivion. "Numerous Memokeepers have ventured to Penacony, only to discover it as a mere illusory mirage dancing upon the water's surface." "However, dreams... They represent a distorted form of memories. I shall delve into its depths and catch a fleeting glimpse of the buried memories before those Memosnatchers and Cremators arrive." * Unlocked at Character Level |
453 responses to “Black Swan”
A couple questions, will Kafka activate the Sacrament stacks? I assume so but Id like to be sure. Also when her burst is up and Sacrament is counted as all 4 common DoT’s at the same time, does anyone know if they trigger as each DoT separatley or as one big combined hit?
Hi, as of right now Kafka does detonate Sacrament, and it does not reset the stacks. As for the epiphany state, sacrament will still do wind damage, but is regarded as shock, burn, bleed, and windshear as long as the enemy has epiphany.
Kafka triggers it and builds them at the same time. Added bonus, Sacrament stacks don’t reset when a boss phase-changes. BS absolutely blew up both MoC’s 11 & 12 and Pure Fiction stages in the beta. Her numbers are absurd in practice.
Kafka can detonate the Sacrament damage because it’s a DoT.
It does not consume the DoT’s remaining turns and does not cause Sacrament to reset to 1 stack.
However, the Sacrament’s splash damage and innate def ignore will not activate when kafka detonates Sacrament.
When epiphany is applied to an enemy, Sacrament count as all four DoT types, which means 4-star DoT such as sampo, gui, and luka can detonate Sacrament in this case. However, this doesn’t make kafka able to detonate Sacrament 4 times per detonation.
Thanks!
There are so many words it feels like Wind Shear in my head, can someone give me a simplified/short rundown of her kit, please? All I understand is that she applies Wind Shear and is a better Sampo.
Hi, from my understanding, sacrament and windshear are two separate dots that both deal wind dmg. Sacrament stacks are unique and scale off of Swan’s stats. Swan can decrease the defense of enemies with her skill. Sacrament stacks reset upon detonation. Additional stacks of sacrament can be applied through other dots procs like shock, windshear, bleed, and burn. Upon ulting, Swan applies the epiphany state to enemies hit. Epiphany increases damage taken by enemies, and blocks 1 reset of sacrament stacks. Enemies with epiphany AND sacrament will cause sacrament to be regarded as ALL dot types, but will still deal wind damage.
More sacrament stacks = modifiers that amplify the damage.
Sorry to clarify***
Epiphany increases the damage an enemy takes but only within their current turn, so it would only amplify damage taken once the enemy takes it’s turn. I assume this means it won’t increase the dot pop caused by kafka.
She applies “Sacrament” wich is counted as Wind DOT and can stack up to 50 times but will be reseted to 1 every enemy turn.
With 3 Stacks of Scrament, she deals extra DMG with a chance of inflinting 1 more stack of Scrament.
With 7 stacks of Sacrament the DOT applied to the enemy ignores 20% of DEF at lvl 10.
She can inflict sacrament with all her skills but with her burst she also inflicts “Epiphany” which changes the effects of Sacrament to also be counted as Burn, Bleed and Shock, the other DOTs.
Aftter using ULT there is a change for the next turn of the enemy that Sacrament stacks aren’t reseted to 1.
Her Skill can also inflict a 20.8% DEF reduction at lvl 10.
Her A2 makes it so that there is a chance that when an enemy is hit with DOTs they apply 1 stack of Sacrament, while her A4 makes it so that 1 stack of Sacrament can be applied when bursting DOTs ( ex. Kafka uses skill, burst DOT, applies 1 extra stack of Sacrament ) up to 3 times per skill that burst DOT.
Her A6 giver her a DMG bonus based on 60% of her Effect Hit Rate which can stack up to 72% DMG bonus.
Awesome, thank you!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PBJkNzQx2JiivSRqp3R0oTWXe1NSCz1GqW0eS-So1_Q/edit#heading=h.14dbsv268gc0
this doc pointing out all of her problems, just a reminder this is not a hate comment (ppl really need to stop being easily offended). im not going to sugarcoating this unit either, DoT state right now is a really expensive in terms of team and gears, its not a weak team but also not the strongest. her kit right now is a mess and i just hope they fix that problem.
if you want to pull her, you better know what you’re doing or prepared for the worst. (as for me, i already diving to deep so im just going all in)
Black swan has flaws, it’s too obvious not to be noticed. Every character has flaws, not even jing liu can be excepted. Looking at flaws, no character is good enough to be usable.
what flaw does JL have? I cant think any of it outside her transimgation state shes useless
Some flaws on jing liu that are too obvious not to be noticed given you used here are:
1. She transforms in a manner of action advancement by 100%, unlike blade, she loses one turn worth of buff in the process. Bronya skill -> jing liu skill -> jing liu transforms -> now she doesn’t have bronya’s massive damage amp any more.
2. Casting jing liu’s ult outside of her state is the worst desicion you can ever make, doing so means two unenhanced attack -> two enhanced attack. Casting her ult in her state means two unenhanced attack -> four enhaced attack. Which means her excess energy has next to no use unless her excess energy has come too far that she can even cast her second ult during her state, which can only happen in simuverse.
3. She must cast her enhanced skill in her state and can’t do the normal attack. When her skill would cause an overkill on the last enemy in the first wave, you still have to waste one of her charges to do an overkill.
4. When she is at one charge and would transform in the next attack, meanwhile the enemy is at a low hitpoint where jing liu can’t kill it with an unenhanced skill, but an enhanced skill would be an overkill, she sucks. Casting her skill in this case and she transforms, wasting one charge on the enemy. Do the normal attack in this case and hope the teammates to finish it, yeah one more turn of waitiing until her next transformation.
We have had enough of jing liu thing. That’s complelely off topic.
There’s so many words it feels like Wind Shear is in my head, can someone give me a simplified/short rundown of her kit please? All I understand is that she applies wind shear and is a better Sampo
I think the funniest part about her is how everyone who thinks she sucks HAS to let everyone know about it and if you so much as dare to say you think she’s good, you best be ready to get served.
You think Black Swan is not a good enough upgrade over Sampo? Great! That’s awesome for you! You get to save on a banner you don’t want. Congrats! Enjoy those jades honey.
Don’t get the need people have to shit all over people who want her. Who cares if DoT sucks? Who cares if all the destruction units are better? Why can’t we all just pull for whoever we want without getting attacked for no reason? Literally nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to pull for her. Skip her just like some folks skipped even Jingliu. Everything in this game can be cleared with fucking Arlan, so let people do what they want. Move on with your life my guy.
I do know there is a community who do actively sh*t everywhere in an attempt to deceive everyone and eventually Hoyo to believe that the character is bad and hope so Hoyo will buff it in the future updates.
Some of their logics and behaviors are:
1. Compare the character’s most unfavorable case against another character’s extremely ideal case, leading to an impractical comparason outcome;
2. Compare the character’s damage output with the meta character and say so the former is underwhelming when the same number of 5-star items are invested to the team; nobody guarantees the calc to be accurate, but they behave as if it were accurate and pretend not seeing any adverse facts;
3. Look for an edge case when this character will get ripped, ignoring the fact that the edge case is avoidable in ease or nonexistant at all, or the character isn’t getting ripped at all even in such case, or other characters will get ripped even worse even if such case is true;
4. Warn people about powercreep and exaggerate its severity as if anything that isn’t a powercreeper is worthless and so-said “not worth to invest into”, and make an oath that “if Hoyo doesn’t buff this character I won’t pay to the game any more / I will quit the game immediately” as if Hoyo cares for that;
5. Cry about “Hoyo not caring about our demands” so you must join them or they recognize you to be another enemy of the player base;
6. Abnormally high needs of expression, actively invading other communities to spread chaos corruption to expand their forces.
Hopefully most people here are calm and reasonable and are not getting corrupted so easily.
Well so far HSR Honey residents are quite calm and reasonable, compared to Genshin Honey right now which is in total chaos lol.
Oho, something funny going on right there?
Mhm, I do have to agreed with all the above comment, it is not worth the time to think too much about it, peoples can decide for themselves. you can choose, you can always choose.
can you share a bit of chaosness happen there? i dont want to touch genshin anymore lol
The upcoming new character Xianyun (Cloud Retainer – Ganyu & Shenhe’s mom) is leaked to be a niche support character. Her skill is basically triple jumps then swoops down for a massive plunge attack damage. Her ultimate enables everyone on her team to jump higher than normal so they can do plunge attacks. Many people find her kits bad because they don’t fit with anyone in their (meta) team, so her reputation already off to a bad start.
Things get worse when the last beta change removed her crowd control ability (no longer able to succ enemies to one spot), so the Honey Genshin community doompost her to hell (“she is just a sidegrade Jean”) until today. The regular registered members can’t talk sense into them anymore, so they all left (including me lol) so all that left in the front page’s comment section are anon negative comments, junk, and debris.
That sounds… exactly like the genshin community in my language. Seems something is international lol.
Never mind the “just 20% stronger than Sampo” claim. It’s pure BS (heh), even more so if we’re gonna take their stipulation of E0S1 BS vs E6S5 Sampo into consideration. In terms of raw DoT damage, Sampo gets destroyed in this scenario.
Here’s something I want to talk about though. How she plays.
Her stack raising is mostly solo-centric.
Raising stacks on adjacents (and especially AoE) isn’t easy because of the limited options:
– BS Skill only gives +1 stack on Adjacents. the BA/Skill A2 effect is primary target only.
– Kafka Ult takes 3 turns
– Gui Ult is anywhere from 3-5 turns depending on build
– Sampo needs E4 and bounces are RNG
– Luka is completely single-target
But what I can say is that 3 stacks on adjacents is well within the realm of possibility.
And that 3-stack Blast effect only serves to amplify her overall damage dealt throughout the fight. Since Sacrament always resets to 1 stack, even BS alone can guarantee 3 stacks on adjacent targets after the first time the Adjacents have received Sacrament.
– Sacrament resets to 1 stack.
– Skill applies 2nd stack to Adjacents
– In most cases, Boss targets are faster and thus move first. Let’s just assume they have 7 stacks here (which is quite feasible btw). Thus, this triggers the 3+ stack Blast effect, which applies the 3rd stack to Adjacents.
– Adjacents take action, triggering the 3+ Stack Blast effect. The Boss thus takes the Blast effect twice, and receives 2 Sacrament stacks from the Adjacents.
In this short scenario, the Boss took 240%+180%+180%+(7*12%) = 684% DoT Dmg
And the Adjacents each took 240%+180%+(3*12%) = 456% DoT Dmg
In comparison, E6 Sampo’s Lvl 12 WShear is 5 * (52.2%+15%) = 361% DoT Dmg.
Now, say it to my face that that’s “just 20% stronger” than Sampo. It’s not.
Anyway, the best comparison I can make is that BS, as a DoT, plays like a Destruction. But Sampo plays like an Erudition. He has a lower damage ceiling, but has the capabilities to stack and maintain his WShear on the full team.
Honestly, people fixate too much on high stacks when what matters is that enemies can take their turns often enough while also hitting these minimum stack requirements.
If you actually delay enemies too much, you’d best make sure to *actually* make up for the enemy’s turn loss by raising enough stacks. The initial 240% Sacrament damage is worth 20 stacks, the 180% Blast damage is worth 15 stacks.
To reply to the comment who disappeared, while I don’t agree with your math, Break Eff *is* a fair point to bring up and it’s quite favorable for Sampo. But my above post didn’t even cover stats, so I guess it’s on me for having an incomplete comparison but… 🤷♂️
Black Swan definitely has her own set of issues: high EHR req leaves little room for other stats (alleviated by her A6 offense-wise but… 120% EHR isn’t even a guaranteed proc unless you have BS E4 or Gui E1) and her Energy situation isn’t favorable (least they could do is to drop it to 120).
All we can do now is to wait and see.
“DoT DPS is bad” is nothing new, but it is what it is.
In my perspective black swan’s ult isn’t key point of her strength.
1. The direct damage of her ult is neglectible.
2. Making so her DoT counts as all four DoT types isn’t useful for kafka, because kafka detonates all DoT regardless. This effect is to make black swan receive full bonus from her signature light cone by just casting her ult once during battle.
3. Making so her DoT stacks do not reset for just once isn’t important as well because 3 stacks is already pretty good and easy to maintain. Every one stack beyond that has pretty deminishing returns by just adding 12% of black swan’s attack to the damage.
That is to say, black swan doesn’t need her ult at all without her signature light cone, and with it, she needs to cast her ult once during battle and she doesn’t need to do that ever again.
No need to guarantee a 100% proc. 65% base chance, 120 EHR -> 85.8% chance.
I’m pretty satisfied with 85.8% crit rate and after that point I would rather increase my crit damage instead.
Given the fact that black swan procs her unique DoT mutiple times during a cast of skill and even normal attack, it’s pretty rare case to fail twice in a round, and even if you do, it’s hardly you will lose the game just because of that.
You didn’t even count her def shred and 72% damage increment in lol
Can’t believe people do believe in that rumor given they read black swan’s kit ever once.
Sampo play hybrid break dude not pure atk. which mean he add around another 400-520% form break to his dps and about another 24% from e4 because he can secure proc 2stack but he also proc break dmg. for 3 target it should be approximately (1083+470)x1.24 = 1925 however Bs.mid force to use effect hit rate build and cannot do hybid break build and she will lose atk armor which mean approximately (1596×0.75)1.72 and x1.12 for sherd passive. = 2305 which mean she deal around 19,7 more dps than Sampo. However break dmg is not so consistent even with Ruan mei which mean Bs.mid may deal consistent 35% more dps than Sampo. But dot dps is already suck trash and garbage. Dhil power creep over all Seele dps by double. Conclusion in order to make dot worth it the power creep should be minimum x3 and just another 35% dps is not going to be enough or solve the problem. Dot dps is as bad as my Eng.
So your point is: there is someone who has powercrept about twice, so black swan must powercreep for another thrice or black swan is a worthless character, right?
I don’t even want to debate with you.
Sampo hybrid build deal 60% of Seele dps even if Bs.mid can deal thrice of sampo it is not going to cath up or close to Dhil or Jingliu. However Dhil and Jingliu is going to get another buff 30-45% more dps very soon this is not include the real tingyun or her 5star version yet. Rumor and in the lore said that the current Tingyun is just some thing like avatar,clone,fake or copy version of Real Tingyun. and DHil is not even have proper set yet. Conclusion if new 5 star dot can not deal at least 2.5-3.0x or more of the 4star version is simply useless trash.
Talk as if Seele E0 cannot 0 cycle true string floor 12, so what about it? just because character being more difficult to operate doesn’t mean you having to group peoples up with you.
bruh, dude he is just providing a point, why are you suddenly getting mad? sure you love whatever the game shoveling into your mouth but that doesn’t mean all people should have the same opinion as you. every player have different standard and situation. blackswan don’t need to have the same level as DHIL or JL just close that is all it need. she is not weak, only underwhelming
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PBJkNzQx2JiivSRqp3R0oTWXe1NSCz1GqW0eS-So1_Q/edit
This thing? a bit much unfavored point toward Black Swan, and only 2 ulti within 6 cycles? this is pure BS indeed… hehe
comment section suddenly blew up. i guess peeps hate it cos they cant fully understand the kit and dont know how theyll work around it. ill try to help on basic things.
Is she a dps? no. cos she is a DoT unit. what is a DoT unit? its a unit that can inflict big damage outside their turn. kafka is an anomaly lol.
What units she can work with? any units that can inflict DoT. why? base on her kits. whenever the enemy is inflicted with dot, the sacrament stacks rise. more stack more damage. So units like serval, hook and himeko, a dps, can work. even asta.
So youre gonna ask. stack rise has low chance, based on her kits again. its forces you to build effect hit rate for more damage.
so your team can be, black swan, A dps that can inflict dot, harmony or another dot and a sustain unit. thats actually alot of team comps.
Yes that’s exactly why one shouldn’t compare the damage output of an DoT against a straight-forward DPS. A comparason between two characters with different patterns to dish out damage is impractical at all. What’s interesting with black swan is that her DoT can even do splash damage and the DoT of adjacent units will damage the central unit as well, making her actual damage output hard to excel.
bruh, Black Swan is a DPS aka DMG dealer and Kafka is the enabler of DoT unit (Sampo, Guinaiven, Luka) or you could say she is the Bronya of DoT
sure Black Swan could work on serval, hook, himeko, or asta but they are not a DoT unit that means her performance would be garbage on them
people hate her not bcs they don’t understand her kit but bcs it’s V3 Beta, that means this is her Final Kit and it’s still a MESS, why? Energy Problem and some of her kit are not synergies with Kafka while also at the same time she need kafka the most to ramp up her damage. not only she is shit without kafka but with kafka she also can’t open her full potential
Asta is great on her since she need a lot of attack than dmg
i dont think you know the difference of a dps to a dot unit and now making dumb reasonings cos of that ignorance. anyway i know youre a troll thats why you cant think outside the box so ill stop here.
dont be mad just bcs i said the truth, life is rough get a helmet
Look around here. Who else provoke people by calling other people mad like you?
So is “20% better than sampo” guy is correct?
Yes, there is the same DOT multiplier, but with stacks it’s much higher. It’s also worth noting, on top of that she is also reduces defense and increases the damage taken. So how she can be only 20% better?
Some flat earthers believe so by making people believe a character to be weak while it isn’t weak at all can they make Hoyo underestimate the character’s true strength and force Hoyo to buff it.
So the rumor of “Black Swan E0S1 is only 20% better than Sampo E6S5” has been spreading. While I haven’t seen the source of the calculation, people still need to consider this:
1. Not everyone has Sampo E6
2. Not everyone has S5 Eyes/GNSW/Solitary Healing
3. Not everyone likes to play Sampo lol
Another thing to consider: even if the calc is true, for me this just means Sampo, especially at E6, is a really good 4* unit that can rival a 5*. Possibly ranking the same as QQ E6. I don’t think it’s a bad thing. I think this just means HSR devs really know how to cook a unit so players who got 6 copies of a 4*character may enjoy big numbers without being pressured to pull a 5* unit.
Difinitely not just 20% better unless you take that def shred and EHR -> damage amp trace away.
*Definitely
yeah well again it’s just a rumor. I haven’t seen the source of the calculation but it’s pretty widespread on reddit and x.
yes, thats a very good thing. cos i really want to build teams solely focus on DoTs. and i think some people here even said that black swan and kafka doesnt need each other but can still work together. which already gives the possibility of having two DoT team.
I haven’t crunched any numbers as it’s still too early to tell but I just doubt that rumor BUT… Even if the 20% damage increase was to be true I’m sorry but point 3 shouldn’t even be part of a “consideration”… I get people don’t like Sampo but that has nothing to do with the 20% increase in damage over a character someone has no interest in playing…
Guess what, I don’t like TingYun, I think she is cringe and never liked her from the start. I don’t use her despite her being the best unit in the game but I wouldn’t necessarily use that as a point for someone to consider when thinking of a comparison lol.
Anyway, just had to get that off my chest. The first 2 points are great though and should be considered if the 20% increase was true (which I doubt) it’s just some people don’t have E6 or S5 and that’s relatable.
On god
Kings and Queens don’t respond to troll bait posts. More disappointed in those giving those peasants the time of day, lol.
Anyway, yeah no real changes here for V3… I mean technically she got better if you plan to get her LC but that’s about it. I’m personally hoping for some Energy adjustments as someone interested in her LC and a 3x DoT enjoyer, as I think everything else about her is great.
I reported the troll bait posts and they vanished in a blink of F5 as if they were never posted in the first place. I’m curious if it was a quick respond of a human moderator or an AI.
if honeyhunter users stopped falling for bait, we might achieve world peace