71 responses to “Георгина”

1. GRuanny Mei is finally getting her well deserved rest

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   • well no you can run them both in same team

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     • you can but rm supports enemies staying broken but dahlia would lose out her skill effect in that scenario

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       • She loses nothing in that scenario, and in fact it’s not even the same, since broken enemies take 10% more damage.

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2. it will be fundamental knowing if ruan mei break efficiency would be cumulative with the dahlia’s one

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   • it should be because it already stacks with E1 fugue

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3. Looks like a RM upgrade
   1. does 100% sb dmg before toughness is broken for all allies
   2. does 60% sb dmg when weakness broken for herself plus 1 ally but this ally can’t be selected via combat
   3. 50% break efficiency
   4. 18% def reduction and upto 2 different weakness implant
   5. 1 fua per turn with high dmg

   Off kit
   1. 50 + 24%be bonus
   2. 1 extra sp gen per 2 turns via fua
   3. increase speed when implanting weakness by 30%, gen 10-50% max energy when fire weakness is
   implanted

   Cons
   1. dance partner is selected via conditions and not as we need
   2. sb is accessible only by 2 allies against broken enemies and at 60%

   Major comparison vs rm
   1. same break efficiency bonus
   2. conditional speed bonus
   3. all type res replace by def shred
   4. finds its detrimental when enemies stay broken for longer

   bis for ff but can work with boothilland overall upgrade to break team but wait till final version, better that a certain other unit that needed e6 for demo imo.

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   • That’s not how the superbreak before weakness broken works. What happens is that the enemies receive the % of super break that your team gives while broken. The video’s show that the SB damage is the same before and after break. (Damage is only increased during the actual break like normal.)

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4. So, which could be better

   Lingsha + Fugue + Dahlia + E1 RM; or

   FF + Lingsha + Fugue + Dahlia?

   Assuming all others are E0

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   • is the first one main dps lingsha?

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5. “When an ally target applies Weakness to an enemy target, increases SPD by 30% for 2 turn(s). When this effect is triggered by an ally Fire character, also regenerates a set amount of Energy…”

   Damn she’s so tailored for Firefly (maybe a bit of Boothill), Rappa can eat the crumbs I guess

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6. Hoyo always have problems with being late or earlier than real life events, except CNY. Halloween is already over. By the time she arrived, it’s gonna be Christmas, who tf want to pull for her??

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7. so e1 fugue, RM, dahlia and lingsha

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8. Firefly’s lifebuoy

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9. Seems really strong. I am wondering if her 200% Super Break is just for her FuA for is just a team wide SB buff, seems strong as hell if so due to her pretty much tripling a HMCless break teams super break damage. If it is a perm team wide buff then running HMC will generally be a bad idea now because the damage HMC’s own SB does at that point becomes very small.

   Due to SB damage being dealt even on unbroken enemies this also means RM has a counter synergy with a Fugue/Dahlia combo. RM keeps enemies broken, meaning they can’t recover from break and as such you can’t then break them again for normal break damage/Fugue exo break damage.

   At this point i think Lingsha is already BiS even if you don’t consider the extra BE her T1 offers the team with a sustain due to her personal AoE damage. Ofc it all comes down to if that 200% SB bonus is team wide or for the FuA only.

   Her E1 seems insanely broken esp for the super break damage. it says a max of 300 toughness damage. But 300 toughness damage for super break would be literally millions of damage on it’s own. That first hit will always be a massive hit.

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   • Yea reading it a few more times makes me think the 200% SB damage is meant for only her own FuA. So HMC at least is still a worthwhile team mate over Linghsa unless ofc you have a well invested Lingsha.

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     • read the talent! She gives super break on breaked enemies for herself and the dancing partner! and her follow up trigger on broken enemies!
       the super break against unbroken Is not her only bonus!
       Reading this talent i presume she Is for “hypercarry” team so ruan mei looks her perfect bis but She can’t support both lingsha AND firefly.

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     • Not sure why the focus on the best break sustain being BiS for the break team, and also you’re losing something like 100% BE for the team if you run sustainless since her A2 will turn off.

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       • The bonus for running a sustain is just to make it not feel so bad that your team isn’t strong enough to run sustainless, that little extra BE is not going to have nearly as big of an impact as just running another break support would, BIS team is going to be Firefly, Fugue, Dahlia, and Harmony Trailblazer, Lingsha will never be an upgrade for damage she is only a sustain.

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         • What about a e1 Lingsha? You know the one that makes her better at breaking.

         • For one, Constance is giving something like a minimum of 100% BE to the team (before external/relic buffs), that’s not a small amount in the slightest. Secondly, Lingsha is literally an upgrade for damage, giving 25% break dmg (not break effect), vuln from S1, and doing respectable damage herself.

           Now I’m not saying that HMC won’t be the BiS, it’s just not that simple since we previously only had the question of ‘Fugue or HMC (or both)?’. Now we have a lot more to play around with:
           >HMC is straight damage and more superbreak, but do we have enough SP to sustain it all?
           >RM might take 4th slot, how impactful is efficiency now that we have multiple sources of it? How much does that speed and unmitigated res pen matter now?
           >What does Lingsha look like when she effectively has a 100%+ BE buff tied to her healing? Also that Break DMG is looking nice in a team drowning in BE.
           >Are Cipher/3B/SW a potential play? We know from crit based teams that debuffs can be invaluable when you’re already drowning in the limited pool of offensive stats

   • Yeah she looks like a RM replacement more than anything. Buffs weakness break efficiency, makes other superbreak sources(HMC, Fugue) more valuable by letting their effects work on non-broken units, buffs everyone’s break effect. I don’t clearly understand the A6 passive: who exactly is getting the buffs, Dahlia or the character that triggered the effect, and does she count as an “ally” for that.
     For the E1, I don’t think it’s that easy to get the 300 toughness damage – its 25% of max toughness, and according to wiki most bosses have less than 400, with the exception of the AS Netherwing. The upper cap seems to be unreachable, and the effect itself is just a buff for boss fights where current superbreak teams struggle a lot(bosses take a while to break, restore toughness and clear extra weaknesses when switching phases, sometimes have toughness protection).
     The sustain synergy is interesting and makes me think they’ll try rerunning Lingsha or selling another break sustain. Break teams are among the easiest ones to run sustainless because of all the delays on broken enemies.

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10. Is it just me or does her kit seem like a side grade from fugue, if that? At least fugue could work with multiple characters, and even teams outside of break. Literally this one here is just a firefly support. It’s another cerydra situation, for those who didn’t one character, this one is useless. It’s a shame too. Which maybe caterina will be superbreak fire type

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