 | Concepts | Cyrene |
| Rarity |  | |
| Path |  Remembrance | |
| Combat Types |  Ice | |
| Character Materials |  308K 15 15 65 15 | |
| Trace Materials | 3M 1841 6956 13958 12 8 | |
| Story | A meteor streaks across the night sky, stirring ripples in the river of life, shimmering with thirteen hues. Daughter of Aedes Elysiae, nurturer of the Chrysos Heir of “███,” plants the Seed of Memory, letting yesterday’s flowers bloom in tomorrow —“Now, let’s write a different kind of poem together♪” |
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Stats
| Level | ATK | DEF | HP | SPD | CRIT Rate | CRIT DMG | Taunt | Energy | Character Materials |
| 1 | 60.72 | 79.2 | 190 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 (100) | 24 | |
| 20 | 118.4 | 154.44 | 371 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 (100) | 24 | 40005 |
| 20+ | 142.69 | 186.12 | 447 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 (100) | 24 | |
| 30 | 173.05 | 225.72 | 542 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 (100) | 24 | 800010 |
| 30+ | 197.34 | 257.4 | 618 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 (100) | 24 | |
| 40 | 227.7 | 297 | 713 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 (100) | 24 | 1600063 |
| 40+ | 251.99 | 328.68 | 789 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 (100) | 24 | |
| 50 | 282.35 | 368.28 | 884 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 (100) | 24 | 4000097 |
| 50+ | 306.64 | 399.96 | 960 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 (100) | 24 | |
| 60 | 337 | 439.56 | 1055 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 (100) | 24 | 80000620 |
| 60+ | 361.28 | 471.24 | 1131 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 (100) | 24 | |
| 70 | 391.64 | 510.84 | 1226 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 (100) | 24 | 160K935 |
| 70+ | 415.93 | 542.52 | 1302 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 (100) | 24 | |
| 80 | 446.29 | 582.12 | 1397 | 101 | 5% | 50% | 100 (100) | 24 |
Skill
 | Lo, Hope Takes Flight! - Basic ATK | Single Target |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : Single Target : 30 | |
| Gains Gains "Recollection" and deals minor Ice DMG to one enemy target. | |
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 | Bloom, Elysium of Beyond - Skill | Support |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| Gains Gains "Recollection" and deploys a Zone. Additionally deals True DMG after ally targets deal DMG. | |
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 | Hearts Gather as One - Talent | Enhance | |||||||||||||||
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | ||||||||||||||||
| Weakness Break : 0 | ||||||||||||||||
| When combat begins or after Cyrene takes action, teammates and their memosprites gain "Future." When ally targets with "Future" take action, they consume "Future" to grant Cyrene When combat begins or after Cyrene takes action, teammates and their memosprites gain "Future." When ally targets with "Future" take action, Cyrene gains "Recollection." While Cyrene is on the field, increases all DMG dealt by ally targets. | ||||||||||||||||
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 | Attack | Single Target |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : Single Target : 30 | |
| Attacks an enemy, and after entering combat, reduces their Toughness of the corresponding Type. | |
 | Peace at West Wind's End - Technique | Support |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| After the Technique is used, creates a Special Dimension that lasts for Creates a Special Dimension around the character. Enemies within this Special Dimension enters the "This Moment, Forever" state. Increases movement speed for the ally characters within this Special Dimension. After entering combat, deploys the Skill's Zone. | |
 | To Love and Tomorrow ♪ - Basic ATK | AoE |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : Single Target : 30 / AoE : 15 | |
| Gains "To Love and Tomorrow ♪" cannot recover Skill Points. Gains "Recollection" and deals Ice DMG to all enemy targets. | |
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 | Reunion at First Sight - Ultimate | Enhance |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| Causes ███ to immediately gain 1 extra turn. Causes ███ to immediately gain 1 extra turn. | |
| Level | |
 | Attack | Single Target |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : Single Target : 30 | |
| Attacks an enemy, and after entering combat, reduces their Toughness of the corresponding Type. | |
Pet
 | Verse ◦ Vow ∞ - Ultimate | Summon | ||||
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |||||
| Weakness Break : 0 | |||||
| Summons memosprite ███, causes it to immediately gain 1 extra turn, and activates all teammates' Ultimate. Then, enters the "Ripples of Past Reverie" state, with Basic ATK enhanced to "To Love and Tomorrow ♪" and can only use this Basic ATK. Increases Cyrene's and ███'s CRIT Rate by Can only be used once per combat. ███'s initial HP equals to Summons memosprite ███, causes it to immediately gain 1 extra turn, and activates all teammates' Ultimates. Then, she enters the "Ripples of Past Reverie" state and gains Enhanced Basic ATK. Increases Cyrene's and ███'s CRIT Rate, deploys the Zone effect from Skill, and the Zone effect no longer has a duration limit. | |||||
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 | Minuet of Blooms and Plumes - Memosprite Skill | AoE |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : Single Target : 5 / AoE : 30 | |
| Deals Ice DMG to all enemies equal to Deals Ice DMG to all enemies. | |
| Level | |
 | This Ode, to All Lives - Memosprite Skill | Support |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| Applies a buff to one designated ally. When the target is a Chrysos Heir, the target gains a Applies a buff to one ally target. When the target is a Chrysos Heir, the target gains a | |
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 | Waiting, In Every Past - Memosprite Talent | Enhance |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| ███'s SPD remains at 0, and ███ will not appear on the Action Order. While on the field, it is considered as Out-of-Bounds When changes occur on Cyrene's HP percentage, ███'s HP percentage will also change accordingly. When ███ is on the field, Cyrene's and ███'s Max HP increases by When changes occur on Cyrene's HP, ███'s HP will also change accordingly. While ███ is on the field, Cyrene's Max HP increases. | |
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 | "Hello, World ♪" - Memosprite Talent | Enhance |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| When ███ is summoned, dispels Crowd Control debuffs from all allies. When summoned, dispels Crowd Control debuffs from all allies. | |
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 | Ode to Genesis - Memosprite Skill | Support |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| Effective for the entire battle. When used on Trailblazer (Remembrance), increases Trailblazer (Remembrance)'s ATK by a value equal to Effective for the entire battle. When used on Trailblazer (Remembrance), increases Trailblazer (Remembrance)'s ATK and CRIT Rate. This effect also applies to Mem. After Trailblazer (Remembrance) uses Enhanced Basic ATK, ███ immediately gains 1 extra turn and automatically uses "Minuet of Blooms and Plumes." | |
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 | Ode to Romance - Memosprite Skill | Support |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| One-time effect. When used on Aglaea, causes Aglaea to gain "Romantic" and immediately stacks Garmentmaker's Memosprite Talent's SPD Boost effect to its max. After Aglaea or Garmentmaker uses an attack, consumes "Romantic" and regenerates One-time effect. When used on Aglaea, immediately stacks Aglaea's Memosprite Talent's SPD Boost effect to its max. After Aglaea or Garmentmaker uses an attack, regenerates Energy. Increases DMG dealt by Aglaea and Garmentmaker, and ignores target's DEF. | |
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 | Ode to Passage - Memosprite Skill | Support |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| Effective for the entire battle. When used on Tribbie, causes DMG dealt by Tribbie to ignore Effective for the entire battle. When used on Tribbie, causes DMG dealt by Tribbie to ignore the enemy's DEF. When Tribbie launches Follow-up ATK and triggers the Additional DMG from Tribbie's Zone, it further deals | |
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 | Ode to Strife - Memosprite Skill | Support |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| One-time effect. When used on Mydei, removes all Crowd Control debuffs inflicted on him. And if Mydei is in the "Vendetta" state, he automatically uses 1 instance of "Godslayer Be God" without consuming Charge. Mydei's CRIT DMG increases by One-time effect. When used on Mydei, removes Crowd Control debuffs. And if Mydei is in the "Vendetta" state, he automatically uses "Godslayer Be God" and increases his CRIT DMG. If he is not in the "Vendetta" state, Mydei's action advances. | |
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 | Ode to Life and Death - Memosprite Skill | Support |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| Effective for the entire battle. When used on Castorice, "Newbud" can overflow up to Effective for the entire battle. When used on Castorice, "Newbud" can overflow. When summoning Netherwing, consumes all overflowed "Newbud," increases the DMG multiplier of the DMG dealt based on the overflow value when the summoned Netherwing triggers the ability effect of its Talent, "Wings Sweep the Ruins." If there are fewer than a certain number of enemy targets, the DMG multiplier additionally increases. | |
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 | Ode to Reason - Memosprite Skill | Support |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| One-time effect. When used on Anaxa, recovers One-time effect. When used on Anaxa, recovers Skill Points for allies and allows Anaxa to take action immediately with increased instances of Skill DMG. Additionally increases ATK and Skill DMG for all Erudition Path characters. | |
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 | Ode to Sky - Memosprite Skill | Support |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| When ███ uses Memosprite Skill, causes Hyacine to gain 2 stacks of "Ode to Sky." When used on Hyacine, regenerates When ███ uses Memosprite Skill, causes Hyacine to gain 2 stacks of "Ode to Sky." When used on Hyacine, regenerates Energy for Hyacine. When Hyacine has "Ode to Sky" and is providing healing, additionally increases the healing value tallied for Little Ica's Memosprite Skill. | |
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 | Ode to Trickery - Memosprite Skill | Support |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| Effective for the entire battle. When used on Cipher, increases the DMG dealt by Cipher by Effective for the entire battle. When used on Cipher, increases the DMG dealt by Cipher, and decreases the enemy targets' DEF. The DEF of the "Patron" further decreases. | |
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 | Ode to Worldbearing - Memosprite Skill | Support | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Effective for the entire battle. After it is used on Phainon, Phainon gains Effective for the entire battle. After it is used on Phainon, Phainon immediately gains "Coreflame," increasing Khaslana's CRIT Rate and CRIT DMG. After the extra turns are depleted, the Transformation does not end, gains "Scourge", and refreshes all of Khaslana's extra turns instead. At the start of Khaslana's extra turns, loses current HP, then deals Fire Additional DMG to one random enemy after using an attack. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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 | Ode to Ocean - Memosprite Skill | Support |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| One-time effect. When used on Hysilens, Hysilens gains "Flowing Warmth." After Hysilens uses an attack, consumes "Flowing Warmth" and regenerates One-time effect. When used on Hysilens, Hysilens gains "Flowing Warmth." After Hysilens uses an attack, consumes "Flowing Warmth" and regenerates Energy for Hysilens. Increases DMG dealt by Hysilens. After Hysilens uses Basic ATK/Skill to attack enemies, causes the DoT currently applied on the attacked enemy targets to immediately produce one instance of DMG. | |
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 | Ode to Law - Memosprite Skill | Support |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| Effective for the entire battle. After using on Cerydra, increases the CRIT DMG of the character with "Military Merit" by Effective for the entire battle. After using on Cerydra, increases the CRIT DMG of the character with "Military Merit." After Coup de Main ends, Cerydra immediately gains Charge. | |
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 | Ode to Time - Memosprite Skill | Support |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| Effective for the entire battle. After it is used on Evernight, increases DMG dealt when Evey uses the Memosprite Skill "Dream, Dissolving, as Dew" by Effective for the entire battle. After it is used on Evernight, increases DMG dealt when Evey uses the Memosprite Skill "Dream, Dissolving, as Dew." After Evernight uses a Skill/Ultimate, additionally gains "Memoria." The CRIT DMG boost effect provided by the Skill is further increased. | |
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 | Ode to Earth - Memosprite Skill | Support |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| When ███ uses Memosprite Skill, grants "Ode to Earth" to Dan Heng • Permansor Terrae, and the next When ███ uses Memosprite Skill, grants "Ode to Earth" to Dan Heng • Permansor Terrae, and deals Additional DMG after "Souldragon" attacks. When used on Dan Heng • Permansor Terrae, advances Souldragon's action, as well as causing Souldragon's next action to gain the enhance effects of Dan Heng • Permansor Terrae's Ultimate and increases the multiplier of Shield provided. | |
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 | Ode to ██ - Memosprite Skill | Support |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| After Cyrene has gained "Recollection" from each different teammate (other than ███), when ███ uses "Minuet of Blooms and Plumes," it additionally deals 1 instance of Ice DMG equal to For each different teammate (other than ███) from whom Cyrene has gained "Recollection," when ███ uses "Minuet of Blooms and Plumes," it additionally deals 1 instance of DMG to one random enemy. After Cyrene uses her Ultimate a certain number of times, ███ immediately gains 1 extra turn and automatically uses "Minuet of Blooms and Plumes." | |
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Traces
 | Child of Remembrance |
| Requires Character Ascension 2 | |
| When a teammate's memosprite is summoned, it gains "Future." "Future" held by memosprites cannot be consumed. | 500031 |
 | HP Boost (HP) |
| Requires Character Ascension 3 | |
| Max HP increases by | 900032 |
 | CRIT DMG Boost (CRIT DMG) |
| Requires Character Ascension 4 | |
| CRIT DMG increases by | 1900044 |
 | Ripples Across Time |
| Requires Character Ascension 4 | |
| When there are 1/2/3 Chrysos Heir(s) or Remembrance Path character(s) aside from Cyrene in the team, Cyrene gains | 20000511 |
 | SPD Boost (SPD) |
| Requires Character Ascension 5 | |
| SPD increases by | 4500033 |
 | CRIT DMG Boost (CRIT DMG) |
| Requires Character Ascension 5 | |
| CRIT DMG increases by | 4500033 |
 | Causality in Trichotomy |
| Requires Character Ascension 6 | |
| When Cyrene's SPD is at | 160K811 |
 | HP Boost (HP) |
| Requires Character Ascension 6 | |
| Max HP increases by | 140K76 |
 | SPD Boost (SPD) |
| Requires Character Lv. 75 | |
| SPD increases by | 160K88 |
 | CRIT DMG Boost (CRIT DMG) |
| Requires Character Lv. 80 | |
| CRIT DMG increases by | 160K88 |
 | CRIT DMG Boost (CRIT DMG) |
| CRIT DMG increases by | 25002 |
 | SPD Boost (SPD) |
| Requires Character Ascension 2 | |
| SPD increases by | 400036 |
 | CRIT DMG Boost (CRIT DMG) |
| Requires Character Ascension 3 | |
| CRIT DMG increases by | 900032 |
Eidolons
 | Epics, Born on a Blank Slate |  |
| When ███ triggers the Memosprite Skill "Ode to ██" while using "Minuet of Blooms and Plumes," gains |
 | A Tomorrow in Thirteen Shades |  |
| When entering combat, additionally gains |
 | By Thy Being, As I've Written |  |
| Ultimate Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. Talent Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. Memosprite Skill Lv. +1, up to a maximum of Lv. |
 | Please Write On, With a Smile |  |
| Each time after ███ uses "Minuet of Blooms and Plumes," the Bounce DMG multiplier of the triggered Memosprite Skill "Ode to ██" increases by |
 | Gaze, Steeped in Yesterbloom |  |
| Skill Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. Basic ATK Lv. +1, up to a maximum of Lv. Memosprite Talent Lv. +1, up to a maximum of Lv. |
 | Remembrance, Sung in Ripples ♪ |  |
| When Cyrene uses her Ultimate for the first time, all allies' actions advance by 1 time: Reduces all enemy targets' DEF by 2 times and more: Advances all allies' actions by |
Light Cones
| Concepts | Rarity | Path | ATK | DEF | HP | Skill | Character Materials | |
 | Victory In a Blink | 4 | remembrance-class | 476.28 | 396.9 | 846.72 | Increases the wearer's CRIT DMG by |  |
 | Shadowburn | 3 | remembrance-class | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | When the wearer summons memosprite for the first time, recovers |  |
 | Reminiscence | 3 | remembrance-class | 423.36 | 264.6 | 635.04 | When memosprite's turn starts, the wearer and memosprite each gain 1 stack of "Commemoration." Each stack increases DMG dealt by | |
 | Geniuses' Greetings | 4 | remembrance-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | Increases the wearer's ATK by | |
 | Sweat Now, Cry Less | 4 | remembrance-class | 529.2 | 198.45 | 1058.4 | Increases the wearer's CRIT Rate by | |
 | Time Woven Into Gold | 5 | remembrance-class | 635.04 | 396.9 | 1058.4 | Increases the wearer's base SPD by | |
 | Memory's Curtain Never Falls | 5 | remembrance-class | 529.2 | 396.9 | 1058.4 | Increases the wearer's SPD by | |
 | Long May Rainbows Adorn the Sky | 5 | remembrance-class | 476.28 | 529.2 | 1164.24 | Increases the wearer's SPD by | |
 | Make Farewells More Beautiful | 5 | remembrance-class | 529.2 | 396.9 | 1270.08 | Increases the wearer's Max HP by When the wearer's memosprite disappears, advances the wearer's action by |  |
 | The Flower Remembers | 4 | remembrance-class | 529.2 | 330.75 | 1058.4 | Increases the wearer's CRIT DMG by | |
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151 responses to “Cyrene”
Cyrene is so bad that HoYo had to showcase an E6 Cyrene in the Livestream to make it look good! 😄
if you laugh irontomb actualizes
hopefully after seeing her kit
Basically, Anaxa will lose his cyrene buff during Cerydra buff at his 3rd and 4th shot… Another classic ANAXAGORAS nerf MIHOYO…
Lol I don’t care if she action advance the enemies. Cyrene will come home no matter what. 🙂
she’s very good dw! most of the ppl complaining barely know how to play and doompost just like Robin during beta, it’s gonna age like a milk.
in fact for Amphoreus team E0S0 Cyrene’s almost to even better than E1S0 Tribbie based on CN community testing.
Unless V5 unfucks her shitty ass kit, then I just ate a huge dick by skipping so many banners because every dumbass leaker kept hyping this chick up as some big game changer that you will totally regret if you skip 💀
no V5 for Cyrene dude, but in the history of HSR beta hotfix is possible
thats what you get for trusting leakers like legit, you deserve it fully lmfao, theyre gonna make more busted characters after just wait bro
no V5.
Mydei’s buff kinda baffles me ngl
cuz in normal circumstances (using techniques before entering battle) he’d get 50 charge. taking the first turn/taking enough DMG will give him the rest of the 50 charge needed for Vandetta. so what’s the point of cc cleanse…?
in this team (Hyacine Mydei Tribbie Cyrene) how much spd does Mydei need?
is it easier to time Cerydra and Mydei gbg with Cyrene?
and yes y’all I like Mydei way too much I can’t fucking help it😭
But imagine you build slow Mydei that hits like a truck
And he gets CC’d right off the bat
And you somehow manage to get Cerydra’s ult up before he’s taken a turn
And you don’t just hold it to get the Godslayer anyway…
Honestly, it’s probably for doing weekly bosses or something where you probably aren’t starting with technique, but it’s still pretty unlikely.
don’t forget that Mydei can be kicked out of vendetta (when he triggers his revive). the cc immunity is just insurance for those times and the other weird edge cases.
how much better is she compared to tribbie e0s0 and tribbie e1s0?
I feel like she only need to change her ult, 12 to activate, but only active the selected character’s ult for the first time.
Outside of Chrisos heir ? Tribbie is much more valuable for sure.
For Chrisos heir, it really depends on the unit, but for Castorice, Tribbie is equal. For Phainon, Cyrene is better, only because Tribbie cannot generate stacks for Phainon.
depending on the team, E0S0 Cyrene should be better than E0S0 Tribbie for Aglaea, Anaxa, Phainon, Saber, E9 while for Castorice she is not better unless in conjunction with E9
Even after V3…
Cyrene is still too slow to get her Stacks to 24.
I still belive that she is not a good enough investment right before 4.0
Buffing old 3.x Characters on the brink of 4.x is totally dumb and flawed design.
It would only work if Power Creep would not be a thing in HSR, but it is.
HSR has really high Power Creep.
HoYo is not listening to the players.
Honestly I kinda hope Cyrene sales flops hard, so all the extra effort and time and money HoYo spent on Cyrene will be wasted, and maybe then HoYo learns to stop releasing intentionally flawed characters with E1 and E2 fixes to those intentional problems.
Only when their sales get affected will HoYo stop doing that shit.
I don’t understand this complaint.
Does 4.0 come out and suddenly every single other unit is invalidated? Did that happen in 3.0? No.
Therta came out, yea she was super powerful and everything was pushed towards her. And then you went to the other side of the content.
Did Aglaea invalidate everyone before her? No. Hell, I just Acheron or pre-buff Kafka and got through everything fine.
Did Mydei come out and invalidate everyone before him? No.
Did Tribbie come out and invalidate everyone before them? No. Tribbie’s super powerful, but despite being 3 girls, she’s only one unit. Stick her next to Robin, stick her next to Sunday, and you’re good.
It’s not until Castorice that we a real bump, and most of that is simply because Cas/Tribbie/RMC is a complete and pretty optimized team.
Here’s the usage statistics overtime for MoC. Teams that don’t really cut it tend to fall off in usage hard.
Castorice (premium team), Phainon (premium team), Kafka (premium team), Therta (premium team), Acheron (premium team), Feixiao (premium team), Saber, Firefly (premium team), Archer, Aglaea, Mydei, [main dps] Anaxa
Here’s AS:
Cas, Phainon, Kafka, Firefly, Therta, Archer, Anaxa/Saber/Fexiao, Acheron, the rest
We’re like a patch away from 4.0, and hopefully you notice a trend. Full complete teams establish relevancy. It’s easiest to look at who’s underperforming:
>Mydei/Buffed JL
Tribbie/Sunday are good generic options, but no summon for extra sunday buffs, and Tribbie has some anti-synergy due to no AOE. S1 Hyacine’s good for JL, but Mydei has just Luocha/Gallagher, who heal him well, but that’s it.
>Aglaea
She’s got a functional team, and Sunday’s a good teammate, but Robin/Tribbie are moreso generic options
>Anaxa
Main DPS usage is low because he’s just better with Therta (because he lacks his own team to stand on it’s own).
>Archer
Imagine if he had a support that could split up some of his damage when he needs it.
>Saber
Really powerful, but her best options are just whatever generic teams
-> Anaxa is just better with Therta
Wrong, Therta needs Anaxa more than Anaxa needs her. Anaxa has Sunday,Cery,DHPT, If that not his own team then I dont know what it is. His usage only low mostly due to his animation is trash so less people pulling him.
If anything Therta is one of worst 3.x unit because the amount of AOE shilling she had for months, only now her weakness are finally showing. Anaxa already good on his own and will gets better and better while THerta will gets worse and worse
Here what’s Anaxa good at: MoC, AS, bad in PF is a myth since he can easily break enemies so just pair him with Himeko and the problem is solved.
Here what’s Therta good at: Literally Nothing. Even in recent PF where she supposed to be best at, failed to clear both side 40k without E2S1.
Literally most of the current endgame contents still prefer AOE tho, but The Herta fell off so bad just like Acheron – Emanator with path resriction on their kit is meta BS
Powercreep in HSR is so bad that Emanator got powercreep in 2 patch by overhyped local entity
AOE, Castorice > Herta
Single/Blast, Anaxa > Herta
There is a reason why HSR is called Powercreep Simulator
He’s got 3x the use rate alongside Therta compared to without, and faster clears on average to boot. His pull rate (based on available info) is higher than Phainon, Aglaea, Cerydra, Cipher, Hysilens, and maybe Evernight. Not Phainon/Cas levels of popularity obviously, but far from the least popular.
I 40k’d last PF with Therta on the non-primary ice weak side – E0S1 Therta/E0S0 Jade/E0S0 Tribbie/E0S1 Fu Xuan. Not a particularly OP team, and honestly could 40k with many different variations. You’re just bad.
Riddle me this – if Therta needs Anaxa more than Anaxa needs Therta – why do Therta only teams have clears on Lygus (AA), and Anaxa doesn’t?
Now I know that you pulling stuff out your own crack behind because Anaxa is among least owned heirs from these patches with only ones lower than him being Cipher and Mydei. From CN, JP, KR to even West, Anaxa’s ownership rate is pretty low. Rappa level of low. I have no idea as such where do you get your idea that MANY people have him as such when it’s the opposite. Riddle your own brain as such, as you seem to possess none. You seem to live in your own delulu world judging by both of your posts. Worst posts in this comment section that aren’t just pure rage baiters and trolls. Congratulations on the worst poster award as such and of course it’s Kafka simp that has some of the worst takes known to mankind.
To be fair, 3.X did murder the whole Break archetype pretty hard, and we can’t be sure that won’t happen again. It didn’t happen right in 3.0, but by the time we got Castorice, Break just didn’t cut it anymore. I believe same will happen in 4.X: new units on their own won’t shake the meta too hard, but as we get to their premium teams at around 4.2 current meta teams will drop to barely playable status. So it’s a choice between getting a unit that will keep old teams a bit stronger for next 3 patches, or save up to start building a future meta comp. Cyrene is pretty much on a timer here, there has to be a good reason to go for a unit that’s doomed to disappear from meta really soon, and what she currently provides isn’t it.
That’s a more reasonable point, but the problem is, is that Cyrene just needs one connection of the like 13 she has to stay strong. And even then, if she’s not the strongest team (likely), we still see plenty of use of 2.x meta teams – Feixiao, FF, Acheron, JL, Yunli, to name a few – to clear MoC 12 or stages of AA.
“Cyrene just needs one connection of the like 13 she has to stay strong”
Is she though?
Realistically, last ones to fall off the meta cliff would be supports and sustains. I can definitely see Tribbie or DHPT surviving until the end of 4.X and more, but I don’t think Cyrene does enough to justify wasting a slot just because she works with them, especially since she has massive issues getting her ult reasonably quick in teams that are not full CH/Remembrance.
And yes, old teams are still clearing moc – in particular those that got new toys, like how Tribbie happens to improve Feixiao teams, so I won’t expect them to be completely unplayable. But it’s easy to pick up an old team you already own and run it in endgame for no cost, where as this is about investing in that team further, instead of picking up new units.
Now, there’s a chance that they will tone down the powercreep in some way, and by the end of 4.X Amphoreus teams will be competitive with all the new stuff(perhaps with few new supports). In that case Cyrene would indeed be a worthwile addition. But I doubt that will happen, and even if it does, that’s what reruns are for.
” Did that happen in 3.0? No.” – except IT DID!
* Acheron was beyond washed. She was already barely hanging by a thread called JQ back in 2.X patches due to how much break and FUA dominated. You had to have extremely heavy investment into Acheron and her supports just so she can compete with these two archtypes at their minimum investments back then. Then 3.0 drops and THerta was literally Acheron 2.0 in terms of kit, except with Acheron’s E2 in her base kit aka better (at least than Acheron).
* Content went hard AOE shilling so Feixao went bye-bye for anyone who wasn’t sustainless tryhard. It’s not that it’s impossible to play her (she has very good kit), but common! You can’t tell me that she didn’t “fell off” with AOE being shilled left and right because they were trying to sell you THerta (Acheron 2.0) as a “good unit” so you don’t realize just how much of a scam she was without high investment (much like Acheron). Funniest thing is that Feixiao in 2025 is best and most playable with you dropping her every previous “BiS team” (which was expensive as it is) that isn’t named Robin, and replace them with either classical wheelchair comp (Tribbie and Hyacine), or go sustainless with Feixiao-Robin-Tribbie-flex support. Meaning, if you were someone who was investing into that FUA FART coin, then you would need high investment just to compete with teams that 3.X brought, and even then, 3.X teams will be better.
* Let us not even go into break. You know, the thing 2.X shilled the most? Remembrance of 2.X in terms of shilling and each unit being pumped to shill Firefly (Castorice) further? Yes, unless you were that dolphin (minimum) Firefly owner that had her at like E2S1 and had her full premium team (at E+ probably too), she was beyond cheeks in 3.0+ patches now. My Lingsha ended up being better break dps than my Firefly past 3.0+ due to how much cheeks she started to feel. So, unless you owned a thing like Rappa, whaled out Firefly with her premium team, or dps Lingsha I guess, you wouldn’t have a fun team as someone who spent time investing into break. If anything, you probably felt scammed as hell if you pulled Fugue right before 3.0, with Firefly (non-whale) being your only break dps due to how anti-break and anti-fire 3.0 and onwards got. Must’ve sucked if you skipped Sunday back then because you skipped a very good generic support unit that can be used almost anywhere (even in teams that he shouldn’t work for) for a niche unit whose niche got hard blocked just one patch later because Hoyo was done playing with break and fire element in particular. Bet it felt absolutely great to be scammed and then rugpulled just like that after you finished building that fire break Exodia. Well, supposedly there is a buff coming… in a form of a new unit of course. Have fun falling for it again, only so it lasts 2 patches max once more unless you are whaled out.
* Bonus (not dps but is worth to mention as the biggest fall off with 3.0 and onward): Aventurine. People thought he was unstoppable in terms of sustain. Gallagher, 4*, ended with way more value long term than him precisely due to how hard 3.0 and onward got in terms of anti-preservation. He was just an “option” to something like THerta, but worse than Lingsha, Huohuo or even Gallagher with QPQ LC in that team. He just offered more “sustain” and that’s it. By the time 3.X patches started considering preservation again, Terravox came to be, was given to everyone for free, has better kit overall than Aventurine on sole fact that he can cleanse and his refresh is more reliable than depending on extremely aggressive enemies to do it consistently. Plus, he enables Sunday, already broken support, even further due to their synergy. In conclusion: Aventurine joined Luocha and Fu Xuan in terms of how hard he got F’d by content.
Many of your other “points” are dead wrong too, but not interested into dragging my post further. To make all of this short for ADHD TikTok rotten brains: People absolutely have every right in this world to be sceptical about everything in this game because this game has proven, time and time again, that you shouldn’t invest into anything or you get F’d in your own cheeks just few patches later. FOTM seems to be the only way this game likes to go.
>Acheron
I feel like we have widely different definitions of what is good or bad. When there’s content that’s suited for Acheron, I can still clear it with my relatively uninvested teams (E0S1 Acheron). Could clear it from 3.0-3.2 with pre-buff DoTcheron (frequently against strife when Therta was needed on other side), then when I pulled JQ (E0S0) by luck in 3.2 and picked up Cipher (E0S1) in 3.3 I cleared it with that. Does she brute force clear everything no matter what? No. Is she like Seele where she can’t clear anything without ridiculous investment? Also no.
>Feixiao
Again the exact same issue, just even more exaggerated. Feixiao didn’t clear AoE content when she was new, she’s always been D-tier for PF, so when MoC became PF when Therta was new, of course she wasn’t the top pick. She’s still frequently at the top of the list with AS, but not with Tribbie Hyacine? It’s almost like 3.X introduced a fast supportive character that does follow-ups and is specifically tuned for single target damage…
>Meaning, if you were someone who was investing into that FUA FART coin, then you would need high investment just to compete with teams that 3.X brought, and even then, 3.X teams will be better.
If you already had FART, you could make the 3.x teams, and then get better Feixiao teams by default for the same investment.
>Firefly
You sound salty. I’d get it if she was literally useless, but it seems like they have to hold back the floodgates for her to not be relevant, because every time they venture close to 3 targets with (kind-of) fire weak, suddenly she’s the defacto pick. Her main issue is that the amount of 3.X Fire characters is ZERO. The fact that I ever bring her out is astounding since Fire apparently doesn’t exist in Amphoreous.
>Skipping Sunday for Fugue
Hi, that’s me, I did that. No regrets, I picked him up later on the re-run. Himeko and Fugue is fun, and I will run that every chance I get.
>Sustain
The thing 3.x has powercrept the most is sustains – that much is certain. But only in the damage/utility department. When the next yearly recap comes around, you’ll find me with 100% full clear rate of all content (outside of AA), and all of Amphoreous with my most used unit being Kafka during her buff patch, and the E1(it sucks) 3* multiplication LC having Luocha, being every single other month. My sustains pre-DHPT, WERE Luocha and E0S1 Fu Xuan (ft. Gallagher). I don’t even have Hyacine, Lingsha, or Aventurine. I’ll break out Gepard just to prove a point.
>you shouldn’t invest into anything or you get F’d in your own cheeks just few patches later. FOTM seems to be the only way this game likes to go
There’s two responses to this:
>There’s no new characters I want to pull
Honestly should stop playing if they can’t interest you in design/kit/power at all.
>Don’t pull they’ll just get powercrept in the future!
So pull nothing ever?
Still a stupid argument. If you spent all your pulls vertically investing on pre-3.x teams, you’d probably be fine. If you kept those teams and pulled new units as you liked, you’re probably fine and have improved pre-3.x teams that come in handy from time to time.
What you suggest is to buff the Amphoreus character who is already on top of the meta to be even better so that the characters before Amphoreus become even more trash, what a narrow minded thinking.
Have you not learnt from last time? I thought I gave you a reality check. Guess I really need to push the 67s inside your cerebral matter a little harder.
Cyrene is a life support attempt for 3.x characters, but done in such a horrible way, that it is obvious that 4.x characters will dominate over any 3.x Team.
More people agree with me, than with you by the way, lol.
You are the one who needs a reality check. 😀
Argh! Slandered! Cut open! Trifled by words!
What venom swims the current of the net,
that strangers wield such unseen daggers there?
A ghost with keys has cracked my brittle pride,
and through the glowing glass my ego bleeds.
Who are you, faceless hand that typed my fall?
Your laughter hides behind the curtain’s code,
your name — a cipher in an endless scroll.
Yet still your letters strike with mortal aim,
and I, who thought myself so firm of mind,
am humbled by the reach of nothingness.
O cruel democracy of thought and spite!
No crown endures when every tongue has steel,
and every heart may hurl its stone unseen.
Still—within the wound, a strange light gleams:
the sting that stripped me bare has made me feel.
To bleed is proof I yet can hear and change.
So write, O stranger! Scorn me as you will;
I’ll learn beneath your shadow, nameless friend.
For even mockery may be a teacher,
and even shame — a sculptor of the soul.
somethin tells me that you just dont know how to play 3.X characters soo you chose to hate them – its not more people agree with you – its more trashtalkers and trolls write coments positive to your position – just as always in internet )
I love the 3.x characters.
That is why it is even more upsetting to me that Cyrene is such a disappointment!
Why would I complain about a character that I do not like, being disappointing?
As soon as Acheron came in 2.x she instantly power crept all characters in 1.x
As soon as Madam Herta came in 3.0 she instantly power crept both Acheron and Feixiao (not to mention Firefly lol).
It is easy to see that HoYo is going to release characters in 4.x that will completely power creep all 3.x characters.
Cyrene would have been able to prevent that if her Kit wouldn’t be so horrible.
Since Cyrene’s Kit is bad, at best she might be useful until 4.x starts.
That is a really bad investment, for such a short time. Doesn’t worth it.
Also, since 3.x Characters are doing perfectly fine until 4.x comes, there is no reason to get Cyrene at all.
(Exept for her Character Design and Animations if someone is willing to Pull for looks only.)
Defending Cyrene’s horrible Kit design in any way is just dumb.
Anyone who understands how HSR works knows how bad she is!
should i make cyrene faster or slower than her teammates?
She wants a speed of 180+ for a major trace, and she has to act to apply Future to her party members before they can convert it to Recollection (which is her ult charge)
she wants to be very fast.
Considering she wants at minimum 180 speed. I very much doubt you want her slower than 134 sped team mates.
She has to be the fastest of the whole team, in the full rmb team she has to be faster than hyacine.
there are a few things i dint get
1. is the 12 stack ult in special state same as the memo skill
2. when memo skill is used only ally is the previous usage removed ( like the ones supposed to last whole battle , making it affect only one unit )
3. what exactly does the memo do and when does it take action
4. can the memo be downed
5. after ult does her skill get no turn limit
I’m too dumb and lazy to comprehend this kit can someone summarise it
1. Yes, her mini-ults allow the memosprite to take action, which it can use for either buffing or attacking
2. No, you can eventually buff everyone if they all have permanent effects
3. It hangs out of bounds, not participating in combat, and only takes a turn when Cyrene ults
4. No
5. When her ults, for the rest of the fight, the skill effect is permanent and skill itself can’t be used.
first i was overwhelmed as well.
to the questions
1,the 12 stack ULT only causes the memosprite to take action
2, different allys can have the buff at the same time
3, the memosprite has 2 skills to buff and the damage skill when memo takes action(answer 1) you can chose what you want to use
4,i understand that as that the memo can’t get hit but get the hp down and up as cyrene hp fall and rises
5, yes the first ult makes the skill field limitless