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| n/a | A drifter claiming to be a Galaxy Ranger. Her true name is unknown, and she walks the cosmos alone, carrying with her a long sword.
Though aloof and taciturn, her blade flicks out like lashing lightning. And yet, she always strikes with her scabbard, never drawing the sword free. |
| n/a | "...Warriors don't choose their blades, but rather their blades choose them. ██████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████████... On that day, as I witnessed the blade I had crafted being passed on to that girl, I realized that in the fight against ▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇, she had chosen — or been chosen — to embrace the path that ▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇ led her toward a new tomorrow. ▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇ there would be a bright future. Despite the peril looming over Izumo, its people would hold onto hope, believing that the ▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇ shall one day be vanquished, and the world shall be liberated... ▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇..."
— An Ancient Scattered Manuscript |
| n/a | "...Through the scrolls left behind by the blade forger, we have learned that Izumo was once on the brink of destruction. In order to survive, they forged blades from the ▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇, and those who wielded them were hailed as the saviors of their realm.
Unfortunately, the world has long vanished from the astral charts. The truth of history eludes us, and the Remembrance no longer holds its place. When the Armed Archaeologists arrived, the galaxy resounded solely with the melody of the Enigmata: ▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇ tears, rain's boundless outpour. Beneath faint curtain, survivor departs from her shore. Her homeland, ▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇▇..."
— Oppenheimer, the Recorder |
| n/a | "I used the 'Revitalization-310' tincture, which induces a profound slumber, enabling individuals to relive their past memories. While some patients found ████████████████████████████, she proved an exception. No one has ever awakened from their dream state, yet she defied the odds. I closely observed her dreams... and they can hardly be called happy moments: Gloomy skies, crumbling cities, ruined lands, and incessant rains.
The rain never stopped. Amidst the swelling tide, individuals wore smiles even as they were drowned, and within the engulfing darkness, I heard the distant rumble of thunder, until, at a particular moment, lightning shattered the veil of night. Below the fractured sky, I saw her once more: Within a world fading into oblivion, she elegantly swung her blade, eradicating the entire realm of dreams.
I must admit that she has ventured far beyond our progress on this path. The elusive ████████ beckons her toward █████████████████, yet she subtly holds its reins. Perhaps she was prepared to confront the true enemy from the very beginning of her journey..."
— A Note from a Pharmacist |
| n/a | "I am leaving this letter here. In the event that I do not return, let this letter bear witness to the tale of a companion I encountered in ██████. The journey to the other side was perilous, and it was thanks to her that I managed to navigate it through...
...She had traversed numerous worlds before our paths crossed, and she possessed a wide range of life skills. Together, we cooked and established camps amidst the wilderness. On starless nights, she lent an ear to my stories and deliberated plans for the following day. Yet, more often than not, we journeyed in silence. The snow here bears a purplish-red hue, carrying the tangy flavor of raspberries. While she ███ ██████ ████ ███ █████ ██ █████, she appreciates the ██████ snow doughnuts I prepare...
...Before meeting her, I had spent countless years wading through the river of ████████. She extended her hand to me, and together, we ventured along this river. Now, the time has come for us to part ways, and I have yet to reach the shore, uncertain of what lies ahead... Even so, I see no reason to halt my journey. Life is merely a road that eventually culminates, and until that moment arrives, I shall keep pressing forward. I am certain she would do the same."
— A Note from An Adventurer |
| n/a | "...Warriors don't choose their blades, but rather their blades choose them. Just as people don't choose their fate, but rather their fate chooses them... On that day, as I witnessed the blade I had crafted being passed on to that girl, I realized that in the fight against Yaoyorozu no Kami, she had chosen — or been chosen — to embrace the path that seemingly led her toward a new tomorrow. How I wish that there would be a bright future, that despite the peril looming over Izumo, its people would hold onto hope, believing that the evil Kami shall one day be vanquished, and the world shall be liberated... However, it was only when the blade's light waned that I came to a realization: This is an impasse with no escape, and those who venture upon it have no recourse to turn back..."
— An Ancient Scattered Manuscript |
| n/a | "...Through the scrolls left behind by the blade forger, we have learned that Izumo was once on the brink of destruction. In order to survive, they forged blades from the remains of Kami, and those who wielded them were hailed as the saviors of their realm. The Guild is interested in the enigmatic Yaoyorozu no Kami mentioned in these scrolls, but the Path they are associated with remains shrouded in mystery. In later accounts, the people of Izumo ceased to refer to the wielders of the blades as 'heroes,' but rather as 'revenants.'
Unfortunately, the world has long vanished from the astral charts. The truth of history eludes us, and the Remembrance no longer holds its place. When the Armed Archaeologists arrived, the galaxy resounded solely with the melody of the Enigmata: Dark Sun's tears, rain's boundless outpour. Beneath faint curtain, survivor departs from her shore. Her homeland, once saved, by her hands erased... Invisible shadows ahead, her vision encased."
— Oppenheimer, the Recorder |
| n/a | "I used the 'Revitalization-310' tincture, which induces a profound slumber, enabling individuals to relive their past memories. While some patients found solace and rediscovered hope, she proved an exception. No one has ever awakened from their dream state, yet she defied the odds. I closely observed her dreams... and they can hardly be called happy moments: Gloomy skies, crumbling cities, ruined lands, and incessant rains.
The rain never stopped. Amidst the swelling tide, individuals wore smiles even as they were drowned, and within the engulfing darkness, I heard the distant rumble of thunder, until, at a particular moment, lightning shattered the veil of night. Below the fractured sky, I saw her once more: Within a world fading into oblivion, she elegantly swung her blade, eradicating the entire realm of dreams.
I must admit that she has ventured far beyond our progress on this path. The elusive Nihility beckons her toward self-annihilation, yet she subtly holds its reins. Perhaps she was prepared to confront the true enemy from the very beginning of her journey... Once, I asked her about the purpose behind it all, but she remained silent. Was she at a loss for words? Or did she already have an answer in mind?"
— A Note from a Doctor of Chaos |
| n/a | "I am leaving this letter here. In the event that I do not return, let this letter bear witness to the tale of a companion I encountered in Orkron. The journey to the other side was perilous, and it was thanks to her that I managed to navigate it through. When I first met her, it appeared that she was on a certain quest, possibly seeking revenge. However, I soon realized that it wasn't the case, as a person consumed by hatred would inevitably expose it, yet she remained remarkably composed, with only fleeting glimpses of sorrow...
...She had traversed numerous worlds before our paths crossed, and she possessed a wide range of life skills. Together, we cooked and established camps amidst the wilderness. On starless nights, she lent an ear to my stories and deliberated plans for the following day. Yet, more often than not, we journeyed in silence. The snow here bears a purplish-red hue, carrying the tangy flavor of raspberries. While she has almost lost her sense of taste, she appreciates the Orkron snow doughnuts I prepare...
...Before meeting her, I had spent countless years wading through the river of Nihility. She extended her hand to me, and together, we ventured along this river. Now, the time has come for us to part ways, and I have yet to reach the shore, uncertain of what lies ahead... Even so, I see no reason to halt my journey. Life is merely a road that eventually culminates, and until that moment arrives, I shall keep pressing forward. I am certain she would do the same."
— A Note from Frebass |
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1,364 responses to “Acheron”
Should i pull for e2, her lightcone or a e1 and lightcone? I dont have enough for all. I do have welt
If you don’t have S3+ Goodnight Sleepwell or Welt’s lightcone, then S1 becomes more important than any eidolon.
Her E1 is kinda meh so honestly unless you’re going for E2, best to save your jades.
Pela will be rated up in her banner so you’ll likely grab a copy or two, so even if Welt is your only debuffer you’ll get another making E2 not as needed as S1.
i do have multiple copies of GNSW and pela
i would not say her E1 is meh 12 crit rate is like 3 rolls of crit rate where people would likely go “OMG 24+ CV”
but yes with how theres a lack of DPS LC in the nihility right now S1 is a 100% more viable than E1 even you have S5 GNSW or Welt LC
it’s 18 tho
purple alpha lets go
There are so many not very smart people here. I’m waiting for her to come out. I want to see how people who say that Acheron is weaker than the general will start changing their shoes)
Keep cooking we are enjoying this kind of doomposting
Maybe doomposting and arguing who is better is just a trait of Hoyo players. At least it is entertaining xD
I can understand tierlists and who’s better, but I really wonder what the point of doomposting even is.
If a character is really as bad as they say, isn’t it good for them? Easy skip xD
But it’s fun to read and dismantle their paper thin arguments I agree :3
Maybe deep down they want her but she didn’t meet their powercreep expectation or something, who know. Or maybe they just want to doompost to see people reaction, surely they can’t think doomposting on a leak page would make hoyo look at it and do something
You say that but some of them actually said we should doompost further as that’s causing buffs lmao
Lmao
Doomposting bear a frightening similarity with a cult.
“You doompost and Hoyo didn’t buff or even nerfed it instead? That’s because you wasn’t sincere enough. Doompost harder in a more sincere way and Hoyo will see your heart and buff the character as a reward.”
“Many people sincerely doomposted and Hoyo still didn’t buff or even nerfed it instead? Fxxk Hoyo, they didn’t follow the belief. Fxxk everyone who stated the fact that the character isn’t actually weak, who need fact? Fxxk everyone who doubted the usefulness of doomposting, you weakened the power of faith by your disbelief. Fxxk everyone who pull character because they like them and not for power, because of you, Hoyo feel save to sell trash to us and you still pull for them regardless. It’s the fault of everyone else, it can never be my fault.”
“You doomposted and Hoyo buffed the character? Yeah, that’s because of my doomposting. Hoyo answered to my prayer and nobody should doubt the usefulness of doomposting. I am the hero.”
Every tier list look like a joke to me. Characters are complicated and shouldn’t be simplified into a letter like S, A, B, or so on. Power level can change according to the contents you are challenging and that you have their optimal teammates or not. Such a tier list can never fullfill its purpose to tell the power level of characters.
Yet people take them like a gospel. “YOU DARE QUESTION THE ALMIGHTY PRYDWEN!!!!!!!!!!!!”
imagine people when they lose 50/50 to bronya but already have another 5 star harmony they will bench bronya due to “latest tier list ver. x.x”
like bro its a single player game with little coop just play it the way you want you dont need tier list to influence your game time
Reverse is also true. I don’t like Bronya but felt pressured to use her cuz she was S+ tier and everyone told me I had to. This was before I stopped caring and was pretty new to the game. It’s terrible xD
Not to mention how just selecting a criteria for ranking ends up shifting power between characters. Go by MoC 12/PF 4? Weaknesses and buffs shift each rotation so follow-up DPS (for example) might be S tier one patch and go down to A/B the next where skill damage is favored. It’s not something that’s feasible to overhaul that often.
A tier list is only good if you have 0 time to consider caveats when comparing power levels imo.
Just as it is fun reading them, it is also fun writing them. Rather, it’s fun seeing how people rise up to defend a virtual idol. Lmao.
Place your bets. She will be S tier on launch. A on Pure Fiction.
Then goes down to A after the patch that favors and sells her and goes to B on Pure fiction.
OBJECTION!
Her Technique will be activated when team will “Start a Wave”, by dealing 200% HP DMG and Toughness DMG to all targets. This alone will be enough to help swipe down weak enemies for … DoT team? (Kafka + Black Swan + Ruan Mei/Sustain). Plus her Skill is AoE and Ultimate will shred Toughness to enemies without Electro Vulnerability.
i agree, acheron will be below JL and DHIL with e0. and for sure many acheron main or simp will be mad.
Clown
her E2 gives her an ult stack for every enemy that spawns, on PF she would basically ult every wave.
i dont know if people already brought this up but does acheron gets 2 ult stacks (1 from her skill and 1 from her LC applying a debuff)? by skill gets it from the skill itself and the debuff application stack from her talent?
If you’re using a debuff inflicting lightcone, then one skill use gives 2 stacks.
Acheron and Jingliu are right around the corner and I don’t want some players to make the wrong choices so here are some numbers:
Jingliu (Destruction) (Ice)
Skill (Normal): Single Target 200%
Skill (Enhanced): (if) Single Target 250%
Skill (Enhanced): Main/Adj 250%/125%(x2) = Total 500%
Ultimate: (if) Single Target 300%
Ultimate: Main/Adj 300%/150%(x2) = Total 600%
Acheron (Nihility) (Lightning) (Ultimate ignores Weakness Types, also it’s -20% All-Type RES)
Skill (Normally): (if) Single Target 160%
Skill (Normally): Main/Adj 160%/60%(x2) = Total 280%
Skill (2 Nihility): (if) Single Target 256%
Skill (2 Nihility): Main/Adj 256%/96%(x2) = Total 448%
Ultimate (Normally): (if) Single Target (372%+150%) = Total 522%
Ultimate (Normally): (if) Main/Adj (372%+300%(x2)+150%) = Total 1122%
Ultimate (Normally): AoE (5 Targets) (372%+300%(x4)+150%) = Total 1722%
Ultimate (2 Nihility): (if) Single Target (595%+240%) = Total 835%
Ultimate (2 Nihility): (if) Main/Adj (595%+480(x2)+240%) = Total 1795%
Ultimate (2 Nihility): AoE (5 Targets) (595%+480(x4)+240%) = Total 2755%
(I have calculated AoE with only 5 Targets as Max for Acheron, so Ultimate can be even more powerful if there are more targets than 5.)
Great calculations, did you take into consideration what team they can be on?
Jingliu can be with :
1 sustain, 1 buffer, 1 debuffer
1 sustain, 2 buffers
1 sustain, 2 debuffers
2 sustains, 1 buffers
2 sustains, 1 debuffers
2 buffers, 1 debuffer
1 buffer, 2 debuffers
Acheron:
1 sustain, 2 debuffers
1 buffer, 2 debuffers
Oh no! A character has a niche team requirement! Oh, the misery…
try this:
sustain welt + 1 buffer + 1 debuffer
1 sustain + 1 sustain welt + 1 debuffer
this is your “jingliu” team while its a probably a troll build sustain welt is actually do-able
“oh boo hoo i cant play the new character the usual way i do”
grow up kid
more like, “oh no, i can’t use the characters that I already pulled with my precious jades and fully build my fuels.”
privileged day 1 player being ignorant as usual
there will be a nihility healer. so you can add 1 harmony soon once its out.
As if her kit wasn’t disappointing enough, they forced us to accept that shitty Yuri scene.
Pretty sure they will be some Meil lovers below… I don’t care about your replies!
“forced us to accept” LOL
I have to say of all the doomposters, you were my favorite. Hope to see you in future character pages!
Triggered cause gays exist. Fine, don’t accept her and don’t pull her, nobody cares.
She has the highest scalings, she even eclipses anything Seele brings.
It’s just that it is backloaded on her Ult and restricted by teammate options.
That is why her eidolons, particularly e2, isn’t all about making her strong per se, but it’s all about making her less restricted.
On paper, it might look to a fool’s eye that Jingliu seems 4 times weaker, but calcs with their optimal teams shows otherwise, in fact Jingliu still outdamages her per series of cycles at e0s1.
This isn’t any doomposting on Acheron’s part btw.
how is acheron restricted by teammate options ? its just like your seele jingliu DHIL have their preferred team comps so as acheron
you might say “but acheron doesnt benefit alot from harmony characters” that like saying running a 4k atk seele/jingliu/DHIL with tingyun or asta right? it works but not as well as running them with bronya/sparkle/ruan mei/dmg% or crit buffer
She is restricted because she can’t use the best available supports yet which lessens her potential. If you are in denial, just look at her e2. Her e2 doesn’t essentially make her stronger. It just lessens the restriction which makes her less weaker and much closer to her actual potential, which bring to OP’s point (if had comprehended it).
Pela and SW are not the best supports. First, they struggle with up time. Especially considering that 1) Pela won’t use BTMS, and 2) SW’s ult def shred is a ST, and 3) debuff attaches to the enemy and not to the character, thus, when enemy die, the debuff support also dies with it.
They’re just idiotic. They whine about team restrictions, then proceed to run the same old repetitive team with Ruan Mei, Sparkle, Bronya, and/or Tingyun.
because those are the strongest. At e2, you will naturally gravitate towards those. In fact, the main point of e2 is to allow her to go towards that “Old repetitive team”.
She is weaker than the top units not because she is weaker per se, but because she is restricted to be weaker.
Those names you mentioned are great, jades well spent characters bro, and not only her team is restricted, her weapons of choice is also restricted. But of course, keep defending your perfect virtual idol.
by optimal team, is this where action forward (like bronya or sparkle) buffers for e0s1 jingliu/normal dps comes in ?
that a good point where the optimized teams maybe outdmg her but i think they havent included outside factors like enemies applying debuff on enemies or the trend of the universe market LC proc-ing on hitting the sustain which significantly increases the rate acheron ults outside her and the team’s turn(basically like what would an action forward would do)
So you conveniently forget the massive crit + atk% buff on JLs part and look at her bare numbers, but also conveniently cherrypick multipliers on Acherons kit, forgetting that her selfbuffs outside are way smaller, while at the same time conveniently forget that JL kit is catered towards a unit like Bronya, who essentially gives her 2x the turns to use those multipliers without suffering from lack of SP?
Like fam, if you try to do math, do math but at this point youre cherrypicking. Maybe go back to school
If he uses 90% DMG bonus from Acheron talent, then it would be too stomped so he even out the field lol
you forget to add another 90%DMG bonus from her passive after she ult the first time lol
Most egregious unit since launch. She is worse than Jingyuan, who had less option only because he was 2nd limited unit. But on her case, the limitations are self inflicted. JY who was supposed to be limited is very great now, and continues to be great due to the options he gets.
Acheron will be the same but in a slower process. The supports that would come will have to be specifically tailored towards her due to her limitations.
But then again, you could just by yourself out of that by getting at least e2s1.
Here I thought you guys have given up but I guess not.
These people just have no chill lol, they could at least wait until Acheron is live to make all these claims if it is real
Gotta squeeze till the last second about her I guess
weird right? Archeron looks amazing but people are still doom posting. No 5 Star unit they they have released has been bad or Dead on arrival, the only one I can think of is Topaz but she was good just not meant to be the hyper carry lol
this guy says worse than jingyuan then probably few hours after acheron release somebody in youtube will go ” UNHOLY DMG EVEN BETTER THAN JINGLIU” clickbait title
True, and for the above comment, you can cope all you want, the simple fact is: “she is not f2p”
lmao even f2p can pull e2 if they actually knows how to skip banner instead of going crazy over every banner due to “meta pressuring”
true that f2p people can save a lot, but having to go E2 is still not f2p friendly, but either way i think archeron is pretty good regardless.
I would just spend 1 for Aventurine, Huohuo or Fu Xuan, 1 for Sparkle, Ruan Mei or Robin(in the future), and 1 for Jingliu, DHIL or JY and my team would’ve been much much much better than forcing e2 Acheron as a f2p.
If she ain’t F2P, how am I able to get her and her signature LC? All this talk about F2P friendliness and whatnot, making it seem as if F2P players can’t vertically invest for 5 star LCs and 5 star eidolons. “F2P friendly” is a phrase only appropriate for non-spending players who choose to horizontally invest with their account.
Acheron is a great damage dealer. Truly powerful and unique in many ways.
Trashing Acheron for her mechanic and saying she is not strong enough is like saying that Imbibitor Lunae is trash because he eats 3 Skill Points to be truly powerful. Total nonsense.
Acheron is one of the best damage dealers, and ignores Weakness Types with her most powerful attack, her Ultimate.
She has backloaded damage? What are you talking about? Which truly powerful unit like Acheron starts with full Energy?
She starts with 5 stacks out of 9.
Backloaded because you need to build her stacks?
Normally by attacking enemies with other characters, only builds their own energy, but Acheron get’s stacks from other character’s attacks aswell (as long as those put a debuff on the enemy).
Unlike most characters, she does not have to rely on her own attacks alone to be able to unleash her Ultimate.
Yes it is true that Harmony units cannot give her Energy, but Enemies also cannot take away her Energy because she has none!
Also, it is her core design to need Nihility instead of Harmony, if some players cannot understand that, then Acheron is definetly not for them.
Jing Yuan is a lot harder to use because he actually has backloaded damage.
Dude don’t know the definition of Backloaded.
her core design is that she turns Nihility debuffer into Harmony at least for me that is
because you literally get 60% more not DMG% like a normal harmony would do but direct multiplication to your dmg
Yeah, a lot of these doomposter can’t even tell the difference between DMG% and RAW DMG% and thinking they’re the same thing lol the damge Acheron get from just having 2 nihility is already much higher than Raunmei skill and ult combined.
maybe it’s a good thing or not. but just like Kafka team with the release of Black Swan. Acheron team will also become stronger as another crack nihility debuffers is introduce. This also happens in honkai impact in a bad way and the other way around. they intro new bosses or mechanics. so, they could sell the best solution on later patches. and let’s be honest. building Acheron now, a typical dps, is far better than later as supports are easy and fast to build.
That applies to any character and I think it’s good that older characters aren’t completely abandoned. Jing Yuan is heralded as better than Acheron in every way by the doomposters, but they all conveniently leave out the fact it was Sparkle that brought him to relevance. Before, he wasn’t bad but he wasn’t the best either. We have good teammate options now (and it’s not just Silver Wolf, before the Akchually Army comes for me). Obviously, just like Kafka with DoT, any future debuffer will only serve to elevate her.
Her main issue that will persist is the lack of good LC options. Concert for Two should have been a Nihility cone for her honestly considering how Aventurine already has good alternatives to his signature. And also she’s first banner (as of the time I am writing this), so it doesn’t make sense that the event LC is for the second character. But I digress.
Jing Yuan is still underpowered even with the addition of Sparkle.
JY has two major issues. One is that he does half the damage output outside of his turn, meaning he has little synergy with Bronya and he has been waiting for a 5-star buffer that both himself and LL can benefit from. Sparkle has a major trace that is specifically crafted for JY, which solved this issue and allowed JY to deal a competitive level of damage output.
The other is that the LL is disobedient, he doesn’t automatically attack at a favorable timing of the player, but instead attacks whenever he feels convenient, and he is easily distracted by mobs which may require JY to kill them off before LL’s attack, which isn’t always feasible. JY needs a zero mob MoC to dodge the issue but even so he still doesn’t do more effective damage than the others. What’s worse, a certain Hunt path character strongly craves for mobs due to her talent requiring kills to activate, while Destruction path characters are appreciate for the free energy gain for killing them with splash damage. It’s very rare occasion to have a zero mob MoC to begin with.
However that doesn’t mean JY is unplayable. He’s very well playable and can clear MoC at an acceptable speed. Just don’t compare him against the meta ones, you shouldn’t do that.
I completely agree. Not every character needs to be meta shattering. Hell even a meta doesn’t make sense since it’s just for the artificial difficulty created by 0 cycle goals, which if that’s something you enjoy, you do you it’s a single player game.
Just don’t come for folks who are not interested in 0 cycles and want a character they really like. Even Jing Yuan had dedicated mains who used and successfully cleared with him even before Sparkle came.
TF? No all of your takes on JY being underpowered even with Sparkle is false sorry, First things first, LL is not disobedient, you can definitely time when you want for LL to attack not literally but if you know what you’re doing let’s say know the speed of your LL and other team members then you can know when your LL attacks also the part you said where trash mobs can be a problem for him is merely negligible since his burst and skill can kill those mobs easily , second you just refuted the first major issue with JY which was his little synergy with Bronya with the addition of Sparkle which I don’t see an issue at all when said issue is already fixed
“Just don’t compare him against meta ones you shouldn’t do that” as if he’s already Meta to begin with, it also doesn’t justify anything that Acheron’s issue is still there
Honestly you’re just talking about a character’s caveat not more than it’s issues like JL having down time, IL wanting three skill points , because JY already have a variety of good LC and good teams meanwhile Acheron doesn’t have those atm.
The history of Honkai Impact doesn’t imply the future of HSR despite they were made by the same company.