i will use kingyuan until 4.0 and skip everything for maximum powercreep power, maybe grab a rider and ONLY rider because fate has only one purpose.
this game is too ugly now in 2025 that even playing it feels like a waste of my time meddling with dogwater yapfest.
this is a lesson, HYV! you can only powercreep when you are the absolute best in the market with no competitors, not in your current state of ugly blobs of outdated techs and visualnovel wannabe yapfest!
or maybe it is already to late for you, your toxic fans cannot save you anymore from your decline from pure arrogance and fake dawei cry to trick retard fans to think he even put any effort into his gambling machine
ok it is already to late for them, HYV is free falling in game industry and everyone despise them now no matter howmany contentcreators they hired to invade twitch charts.
Not only does David make it hard to decide Therta vs Aglaea vs skip, he decides to screw me further with… Robin’s rerun (prob no skip option anymore). Not confirmed, but she’s already been rerunning 2-3 times faster than my girl. 🗿
Here’s what I know (also implication to my account) as of v5:
Aglaea:
+ higher ceiling at e0 (as I consult many 0-cycle CCs like HoS)
+ start with 2 cost cuz I already have Sunday
– I’ll be bricked in 3.0 AS. That big swarm’s types r Quantum, Imaginary, Ice and Physical, which currently in live server’s meta, only Boothill can be the best matchup with Fugue. Even that, the boss needs aoe to kill adds cuz its toughness bar is so beefy for any break dps. Argenti works too, but the problem is I don’t have that 2 men. Hot take: break is overrated in AS, and the 5-TV proves it (except ur name is Rappa who fits what the boss needs (Erudition)), and my experience in that boss proves it.
– her performance in PF?
– LC options?
– energy regen reliability if I only have Sunday + qpq Gall, in the worst case? (With no turbulence) if not reliable, HH is the next target since I also wanna play hyper Robin when I get her e6.
Therta:
+ higher flooring, but also higher ceiling with eidolons (her e1 and e2 r wildly broken)
+ AS 3.0, every PF solved
+ LCs available
– needs eidolons to have ceiling
– SP negative, and her f2p Eruditions r also SP negative => very SP burden to the team (really need Jade if I wanna be comfortable about SP)
– what if Moc/AS turns to… both sides ST? Is she reliable in her worst scenario here?
– I start with only 1 cost, since Fei steals Robin, and I don’t have any good supports for her. It means I have to pull further for Lingsha and Jade.
– Sunday cries in the corner cuz he still doesn’t have anyone to support. Is he good with her, compared to RMC? (Remember my SP point)
– altho she trivializes PF, does Serval pass key make her 40k? (Cuz my Herta is stolen by Fei in PF)
Robin’s further eidolons:
+ reach goal faster
– greatest risk of failed investment (especially 3.0 AS)
– I wanna bench FF
– can FF 2 cost still carry?
Note that I’ll consider it a failed investment if there’s any endgame that I can’t full star. Unlike u guys, I clear for status, not jades.
Btw don’t tell me Fei is evil to Therta and (hence) tell me to bench her (and cope with FF) 🙂
Im gonna be honest, i read the entire thing and i understood about 40% of it. The main point i got was u want someone to help u decide who to pull for.
I dont know what u have on your account to make an accurate and valid suggestion. Instead, ill just ask questions that will hopefully give u the answer u seek whilst also putting in my input to those questions (it helps i promise).
Can u clear Pure Fiction?
If not. then The (but Madam sounds better) Herta solves one side. (Acheron + Jiaoqiu lets me guarantee one side so im deffo pulling for Madam Herta).
Do u even want Aglaea in the first place?
I, personally, dont want Aglaea. She’s cool, SP positive, I like her design, but I like Castorice’s slow speed but high ramping dmg playstyle better. I also have S1E0 Sunday so any negatives to Castorice (95 or under speed stat) will be nullified by a hyperspeed Sunday. Castorice’s BiS 4 piece is probably “Poet of Mourning Collapse” releasing with 3.0.
Side note – Lushaka 12% attack buff stacks. Hypercarry’s wet dream – 36% additional attack on ur dps and the supports get ER.
Jade, Feixiao, Lingsha re-run along side Madam Herta.
U want any?
Robin, Boothill, SilverWolf re-run along side Aglaea.
Further Eidolons for Robin past E1 arn’t really a match in worth aside from E4 (Team wide CC cleanse + Aventurine passive minus the shield, all upon Ult) & E6 for personal dmg.
Overall, its ur choice who u wish to pull for. But i’d recommend pulling for what ur account lacks/upgrades for units/team comps that u enjoy.
“I dont know what u have on your account”
I think “start with 1 cost” and “start with 2 cost” suggest enough (and “I have Sunday”). U can assume I have necessary strong 4 star.
“Jade, Feixiao, Lingsha re-run along side Madam Herta.
U want any?”
I only mentioned Robin as the only rerun pull. If I pull for anyone else I’d have mentioned them also.
“Can u clear Pure Fiction?”
Currently, yes. Future? Uncertain. Powercreep in PF started ramping up, so I need another PF trivializer to stay safe, while not ruining Moc and AS performances.
“team comps that u enjoy”
Honestly I only enjoy Robin. I can meta game for everything else, no problem.
Ty btw. I’m thinking of waiting for Tribbie to see if she’s Therta’s bis
Ahh feixioa my beloved, IM SORRY FIREFLY😭(sorry to lingsha & Jade too :'<)
Triple banners are nice honestly. better than not seeing a character for 2 yrs (glaring at genshin)
I mean, Astra is the first ever healer in ZZZ. Kinda wish they added a 4 star healer that only healed the active unit before they showed off Astra and her kit then getting leaked (the leak probably happened first).
I forgot to even mention that because it was just accepted as fact ages ago
Caesar got last minute buffs (like patch day last minute) so I hold out hope, we know Hoyo aren’t opposed to powerful free characters
It’s not even the beta change, it’s just Jstern (a big Genshin TCer who I don’t really like) messed up the calculations for both him and Zhu which made people think he’s trash, in reality he’s pretty comfortably at limited attacker level
https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1h811xy/30_banner_offical_reply/
Someone asked CN hoyolab about this and the official response there is that there’s no change to banners, still Herta in first half and Aglaea in second half
Though it’s obviously possible that they’re keeping quiet about it until the official announcement. If it gets announced for Genshin as well, then I’d assume HSR would get it too, otherwise it could just be a one-off thing for ZZZ 1.4 since Harumasa’s free
With Remembrance TB allowing units to deal True DMG, will we see other units that can deal True DMG by themselves?
It’s quite similar to how Harmony TB introduced the Super Break DMG mechanic and allowed units to deal Super Break DMG. And then Firefly came out and her kit allowed her to deal her own Super Break DMG.
Could be. Theres also a potential of a harmony 5* that can apply true dmg buff, but applied to whole team or on single ally, but stronger. Robin will finally be powercrept, for sure
I doubt it would be implemented in the same way, Super Break is mechanically different from normal Break, but True Damage is more similar to Additional Damage. So a True Damage DPS would be functionally identical to any other Crit DPS, but a unit with innate True Damage is inevitable
I’ve posted something about this before on the Genshin HHW, but I wanna let y’all HSR lurkers know beforehand.
There are rumors that banners are changing starting from 3.0. If this is true, then THE Herta and Aglaea’s banners will run simultaneously and last for the entirety of the patch. Character reruns would likely come around three weeks after.
All of Hoyo’s games are affected by this as well as they’re moving into some new sales strategy or something along these lines.
And there hasn’t been a source ever since so take it with a huge grain of salt.
We need to wait until ZZZ 1.4 stream, if its going to happen it will be announce for that as is a rumour for every hoyo games.
But again, the source as far as i know is just a notepad text.
So….do remembrance characters require twice the amount of mats? bcuz from what im looking at they memosprites have their own skill bar lvl separate from the actual character, so do we need to level up their stuff as well as the actual character? or is it like a 2-1 type of deal?
Along with that, is their a place we can go to see all these new key words like “true-damage” and “joint attack” i mean i can make an educated guess, but id rather just know for sure.
The total amount of materials and credits needed to fully upgrade a 5 star Remembrance character is slightly less then any other character BUT this does not take in account the amount of materials needed to upgrade Memosprite.
( only traces ) You need 14 green, 57 blue and 123 purple trace materials to max the traces of a Remembrance character
( i am not counting up all the credits )
Every other Character from any other path need 18 green , 69 blue and 139 purple trace materials.
It is likely that the amount of total materials are not including the Memosprite and the total will be the same as all the other characters.
If that is not the case, Great! I can waste more time farming Relics and getting bad rolls 😛
110 responses to “New in 3.0”
The men are important. Beautiful men.
I can’t wait for Mydei kit leaks please have an interesting kit to do him justice (he’s gonna be my 8th built imaginary character)
All three men of Amphoreus… I need… Give now…
I didn’t even like Anaxa’s design in the first trailer but his 3d model looks a lot better imo
i will use kingyuan until 4.0 and skip everything for maximum powercreep power, maybe grab a rider and ONLY rider because fate has only one purpose.
this game is too ugly now in 2025 that even playing it feels like a waste of my time meddling with dogwater yapfest.
this is a lesson, HYV! you can only powercreep when you are the absolute best in the market with no competitors, not in your current state of ugly blobs of outdated techs and visualnovel wannabe yapfest!
or maybe it is already to late for you, your toxic fans cannot save you anymore from your decline from pure arrogance and fake dawei cry to trick retard fans to think he even put any effort into his gambling machine
ok it is already to late for them, HYV is free falling in game industry and everyone despise them now no matter howmany contentcreators they hired to invade twitch charts.
maybe it’s time to take a break or quit
chill bro it’s just a game
i think someone lost their 50/50
Bro is hating on game so hard and still not considering quitting it 😭
This is what we call ‘addictive’ in its finest form, lol. Hate the game so much, yet can’t bear to leave it.
Then jump off this supposed sinking ship already, why wait for 4.0 when you clearly hate playing this game already 😑
damn that’s crazy
Looks like the Fate collab came early. Gotta pull for Amphorean Gilgamesh ig
is there march 7th skin leak?
Easy skip. Already have too many imaginary units.
So the final’s here
Not only does David make it hard to decide Therta vs Aglaea vs skip, he decides to screw me further with… Robin’s rerun (prob no skip option anymore). Not confirmed, but she’s already been rerunning 2-3 times faster than my girl. 🗿
Here’s what I know (also implication to my account) as of v5:
Aglaea:
+ higher ceiling at e0 (as I consult many 0-cycle CCs like HoS)
+ start with 2 cost cuz I already have Sunday
– I’ll be bricked in 3.0 AS. That big swarm’s types r Quantum, Imaginary, Ice and Physical, which currently in live server’s meta, only Boothill can be the best matchup with Fugue. Even that, the boss needs aoe to kill adds cuz its toughness bar is so beefy for any break dps. Argenti works too, but the problem is I don’t have that 2 men. Hot take: break is overrated in AS, and the 5-TV proves it (except ur name is Rappa who fits what the boss needs (Erudition)), and my experience in that boss proves it.
– her performance in PF?
– LC options?
– energy regen reliability if I only have Sunday + qpq Gall, in the worst case? (With no turbulence) if not reliable, HH is the next target since I also wanna play hyper Robin when I get her e6.
Therta:
+ higher flooring, but also higher ceiling with eidolons (her e1 and e2 r wildly broken)
+ AS 3.0, every PF solved
+ LCs available
– needs eidolons to have ceiling
– SP negative, and her f2p Eruditions r also SP negative => very SP burden to the team (really need Jade if I wanna be comfortable about SP)
– what if Moc/AS turns to… both sides ST? Is she reliable in her worst scenario here?
– I start with only 1 cost, since Fei steals Robin, and I don’t have any good supports for her. It means I have to pull further for Lingsha and Jade.
– Sunday cries in the corner cuz he still doesn’t have anyone to support. Is he good with her, compared to RMC? (Remember my SP point)
– altho she trivializes PF, does Serval pass key make her 40k? (Cuz my Herta is stolen by Fei in PF)
Robin’s further eidolons:
+ reach goal faster
– greatest risk of failed investment (especially 3.0 AS)
– I wanna bench FF
– can FF 2 cost still carry?
Note that I’ll consider it a failed investment if there’s any endgame that I can’t full star. Unlike u guys, I clear for status, not jades.
Btw don’t tell me Fei is evil to Therta and (hence) tell me to bench her (and cope with FF) 🙂
Help me decide pls 🤧
Im gonna be honest, i read the entire thing and i understood about 40% of it. The main point i got was u want someone to help u decide who to pull for.
I dont know what u have on your account to make an accurate and valid suggestion. Instead, ill just ask questions that will hopefully give u the answer u seek whilst also putting in my input to those questions (it helps i promise).
Can u clear Pure Fiction?
If not. then The (but Madam sounds better) Herta solves one side. (Acheron + Jiaoqiu lets me guarantee one side so im deffo pulling for Madam Herta).
Do u even want Aglaea in the first place?
I, personally, dont want Aglaea. She’s cool, SP positive, I like her design, but I like Castorice’s slow speed but high ramping dmg playstyle better. I also have S1E0 Sunday so any negatives to Castorice (95 or under speed stat) will be nullified by a hyperspeed Sunday. Castorice’s BiS 4 piece is probably “Poet of Mourning Collapse” releasing with 3.0.
Side note – Lushaka 12% attack buff stacks. Hypercarry’s wet dream – 36% additional attack on ur dps and the supports get ER.
Jade, Feixiao, Lingsha re-run along side Madam Herta.
U want any?
Robin, Boothill, SilverWolf re-run along side Aglaea.
Further Eidolons for Robin past E1 arn’t really a match in worth aside from E4 (Team wide CC cleanse + Aventurine passive minus the shield, all upon Ult) & E6 for personal dmg.
Overall, its ur choice who u wish to pull for. But i’d recommend pulling for what ur account lacks/upgrades for units/team comps that u enjoy.
“I dont know what u have on your account”
I think “start with 1 cost” and “start with 2 cost” suggest enough (and “I have Sunday”). U can assume I have necessary strong 4 star.
“Jade, Feixiao, Lingsha re-run along side Madam Herta.
U want any?”
I only mentioned Robin as the only rerun pull. If I pull for anyone else I’d have mentioned them also.
“Can u clear Pure Fiction?”
Currently, yes. Future? Uncertain. Powercreep in PF started ramping up, so I need another PF trivializer to stay safe, while not ruining Moc and AS performances.
“team comps that u enjoy”
Honestly I only enjoy Robin. I can meta game for everything else, no problem.
Ty btw. I’m thinking of waiting for Tribbie to see if she’s Therta’s bis
why are you still here?
3.0 Banners (STC)
Phase 1
* THE Herta
—
* Jade
* Feixiao
* Lingsha
Phase 2
* Aglaea
—
* Robin
* Boothill
* SW
Looks like they’re not pulling off the same banner strategy as ZZZ and GI, but triple banners are making a return.
Ahh feixioa my beloved, IM SORRY FIREFLY😭(sorry to lingsha & Jade too :'<)
Triple banners are nice honestly. better than not seeing a character for 2 yrs (glaring at genshin)
I won my fugue 50/50 then lost a 50/50 at 10 pity so Lingsha is coming home
Who would win?
Sunday’s sister
OR
A 5* Ether Support agent that regenerates Energy for the team (and also has team-wide healing on her Ultimate)
But is it Astra’s world? If not then Robin solos
I mean, Astra is the first ever healer in ZZZ. Kinda wish they added a 4 star healer that only healed the active unit before they showed off Astra and her kit then getting leaked (the leak probably happened first).
Drip marketing came a day or two before kit leaks, healing isn’t a big thing in ZZZ. Even Astra’s healing is only abt a 3rd of a lv60 characters’s HP
Now confirmed for ZZZ, both banners will run simultaneously the whole patch
This gives more credibility to the leak for the other games
Also a free Harumasa to top it off
That’s why they nerfed him into oblivion 😂
I forgot to even mention that because it was just accepted as fact ages ago
Caesar got last minute buffs (like patch day last minute) so I hold out hope, we know Hoyo aren’t opposed to powerful free characters
Last beta change makes him ZhuYuan lvl if I saw well. So he won’t be trash, neither he won’t be top tier.
It’s not even the beta change, it’s just Jstern (a big Genshin TCer who I don’t really like) messed up the calculations for both him and Zhu which made people think he’s trash, in reality he’s pretty comfortably at limited attacker level
Oh ok, thank you for the explanation =D
Do you know how HyperHarumasa can compare to Yanagi mono electro ? =O
I have no idea, but anomaly is op in current meta so probably fairly worse
It’s still not confirmed for Star Rail.
ZZZ does full patch banner because Harumasa is free and they currently don’t have rerun banner, unlike Ratio with Kafka.
Let’s just wait for the livestream.
https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks/comments/1h811xy/30_banner_offical_reply/
Someone asked CN hoyolab about this and the official response there is that there’s no change to banners, still Herta in first half and Aglaea in second half
Though it’s obviously possible that they’re keeping quiet about it until the official announcement. If it gets announced for Genshin as well, then I’d assume HSR would get it too, otherwise it could just be a one-off thing for ZZZ 1.4 since Harumasa’s free
🤷♂️
Also ZZZ 1.4 is 5 weeks the same way HSR 1.4 was
With Remembrance TB allowing units to deal True DMG, will we see other units that can deal True DMG by themselves?
It’s quite similar to how Harmony TB introduced the Super Break DMG mechanic and allowed units to deal Super Break DMG. And then Firefly came out and her kit allowed her to deal her own Super Break DMG.
The Herta does true damage in SU via her technique so it’s clearly something that could happen like with super break
Could be. Theres also a potential of a harmony 5* that can apply true dmg buff, but applied to whole team or on single ally, but stronger. Robin will finally be powercrept, for sure
I doubt it would be implemented in the same way, Super Break is mechanically different from normal Break, but True Damage is more similar to Additional Damage. So a True Damage DPS would be functionally identical to any other Crit DPS, but a unit with innate True Damage is inevitable
I’ve posted something about this before on the Genshin HHW, but I wanna let y’all HSR lurkers know beforehand.
There are rumors that banners are changing starting from 3.0. If this is true, then THE Herta and Aglaea’s banners will run simultaneously and last for the entirety of the patch. Character reruns would likely come around three weeks after.
All of Hoyo’s games are affected by this as well as they’re moving into some new sales strategy or something along these lines.
And there hasn’t been a source ever since so take it with a huge grain of salt.
We need to wait until ZZZ 1.4 stream, if its going to happen it will be announce for that as is a rumour for every hoyo games.
But again, the source as far as i know is just a notepad text.
So….do remembrance characters require twice the amount of mats? bcuz from what im looking at they memosprites have their own skill bar lvl separate from the actual character, so do we need to level up their stuff as well as the actual character? or is it like a 2-1 type of deal?
Along with that, is their a place we can go to see all these new key words like “true-damage” and “joint attack” i mean i can make an educated guess, but id rather just know for sure.
Actually it looks like remembrance characters will require less mats and credits to upgrade
How so?
The total amount of materials and credits needed to fully upgrade a 5 star Remembrance character is slightly less then any other character BUT this does not take in account the amount of materials needed to upgrade Memosprite.
( only traces ) You need 14 green, 57 blue and 123 purple trace materials to max the traces of a Remembrance character
( i am not counting up all the credits )
Every other Character from any other path need 18 green , 69 blue and 139 purple trace materials.
It is likely that the amount of total materials are not including the Memosprite and the total will be the same as all the other characters.
If that is not the case, Great! I can waste more time farming Relics and getting bad rolls 😛