 | Concepts | Jade |
| Rarity |  | |
| Path |  Erudition | |
| Combat Types |  Quantum | |
| Character Materials |  308K 15 15 65 15 | |
| Trace Materials | 3M 1841 6956 13958 12 8 | |
| Story | A senior manager in the IPC Strategic Investment Department and one of the Ten Stonehearts, known for her cornerstone “Jade of Credit.” A beautiful and elegant moneylender, she is skilled in deciphering the depths of people’s minds, with a personal hobby called “Bonajade Exchange.” She’s willing to wait patiently for high-value acquisitions and adept at extracting value from seemingly destitute clients. |
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Stats
| Level | ATK | DEF | HP | SPD | CRIT Rate | CRIT DMG | Taunt | Energy | Character Materials |
| 1 | 89.76 | 69.3 | 148 | 103 | 5% | 50% | 75 | 140 | |
| 20 | 175.03 | 135.13 | 288 | 103 | 5% | 50% | 75 | 140 | 40005 |
| 20+ | 210.94 | 162.85 | 347 | 103 | 5% | 50% | 75 | 140 | |
| 30 | 255.82 | 197.5 | 421 | 103 | 5% | 50% | 75 | 140 | 800010 |
| 30+ | 291.72 | 225.22 | 480 | 103 | 5% | 50% | 75 | 140 | |
| 40 | 336.6 | 259.88 | 554 | 103 | 5% | 50% | 75 | 140 | 1600063 |
| 40+ | 372.5 | 287.6 | 614 | 103 | 5% | 50% | 75 | 140 | |
| 50 | 417.38 | 322.25 | 687 | 103 | 5% | 50% | 75 | 140 | 4000097 |
| 50+ | 453.29 | 349.97 | 747 | 103 | 5% | 50% | 75 | 140 | |
| 60 | 498.17 | 384.62 | 821 | 103 | 5% | 50% | 75 | 140 | 80000620 |
| 60+ | 534.07 | 412.34 | 880 | 103 | 5% | 50% | 75 | 140 | |
| 70 | 578.95 | 446.99 | 954 | 103 | 5% | 50% | 75 | 140 | 160K935 |
| 70+ | 614.86 | 474.7 | 1013 | 103 | 5% | 50% | 75 | 140 | |
| 80 | 659.74 | 509.36 | 1087 | 103 | 5% | 50% | 75 | 140 |
Skill
 | Lash of Riches - Basic ATK | Blast |
| Energy Regeneration : 20 | |
| Weakness Break : Single Target : 30 / Blast : 15 | |
| Deals Quantum DMG equal to Deals minor Quantum DMG to a single enemy and minor Quantum DMG to enemies adjacent to it. | |
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 | Acquisition Surety - Skill | Support | ||||
| Energy Regeneration : 30 | |||||
| Weakness Break : 0 | |||||
| Makes a single target ally become the Debt Collector and increases their SPD by After the Debt Collector attacks, deals 1 instance of Quantum Additional DMG equal to If Jade becomes the Debt Collector, she cannot gain the SPD boost effect, and her attacks do not consume HP. When the Debt Collector exists on the field, Jade cannot use her Skill. At the start of Jade's every turn, the Debt Collector's duration decreases by 1 turn. Makes a single ally become the Debt Collector and increases their SPD. After the Debt Collector attacks, deals minor Quantum Additional DMG to each enemy target hit and consume the Debt Collector's own HP. When Jade becomes the Debt Collector, she cannot gain the SPD boost effect, and her attacks do not consume her HP. | |||||
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 | Vow of the Deep - Ultimate | AoE | ||||
| Energy Regeneration : 5 | |||||
| Weakness Break : AoE : 60 | |||||
| Deals Quantum DMG equal to Deals Quantum DMG to all enemy units, and this unit's Talent's Follow-up ATK DMG multiplier increases. | |||||
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 | Fang of Flare Flaying - Talent | AoE | |||||||||||||||
| Energy Regeneration : 10 | ||||||||||||||||
| Weakness Break : AoE : 30 | ||||||||||||||||
| After Jade or the Debt Collector unit attacks, gains 1 point of Charge for each enemy target hit. Upon reaching When launching her Talent's Follow-up ATK, Jade immediately gains After Jade or the Debt Collector unit attacks, gains 1 point of Charge for each enemy target hit. Upon reaching When Jade launches the Follow-up ATK, gains Pawned Asset and increases CRIT DMG, stacking up to | ||||||||||||||||
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 | Attack |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : Single Target : 30 | |
| Attacks an enemy, and when the battle starts, reduces their Toughness of the corresponding Type. | |
 | Visionary Predation - Technique | Impair |
| Energy Regeneration : 0 | |
| Weakness Break : 0 | |
| After using the Technique, inflicts enemies within a set area with Blind Fealty for Inflicts Blind Fealty on enemies within a set area. Attacking an enemy with Blind Fealty causes all enemies with Blind Fealty to enter combat simultaneously. Upon entering combat, deals minor Quantum DMG to all enemies and immediately gains | |
Traces
 | Reverse Repo |
| Requires Character Ascension 2 | |
| When an enemy target enters combat, Jade gains | 500031 |
 | ATK Boost (ATK) |
| Requires Character Ascension 2 | |
| ATK increases by | 500036 |
 | DMG Boost: Quantum (Quantum DMG Boost) |
| Requires Character Ascension 3 | |
| Quantum DMG increases by | 1000033 |
 | Effect RES Boost (Effect RES) |
| Requires Character Ascension 3 | |
| Effect RES increases by | 1000033 |
 | Collateral Ticket |
| Requires Character Ascension 4 | |
| When the battle starts, action advances Jade by | 20000511 |
 | DMG Boost: Quantum (Quantum DMG Boost) |
| Requires Character Ascension 4 | |
| Quantum DMG increases by | 2000054 |
 | ATK Boost (ATK) |
| Requires Character Ascension 5 | |
| ATK increases by | 4500033 |
 | DMG Boost: Quantum (Quantum DMG Boost) |
| Requires Character Ascension 5 | |
| Quantum DMG increases by | 4500033 |
 | Asset Forfeiture |
| Requires Character Ascension 6 | |
| Each Pawned Asset stack from the Talent additionally increases Jade's ATK by | 160K811 |
 | Effect RES Boost (Effect RES) |
| Requires Character Ascension 6 | |
| Effect RES increases by | 160K88 |
 | ATK Boost (ATK) |
| Requires Character Lv. 75 | |
| ATK increases by | 160K88 |
 | DMG Boost: Quantum (Quantum DMG Boost) |
| Quantum DMG increases by | 25002 |
 | DMG Boost: Quantum (Quantum DMG Boost) |
| Requires Character Lv. 80 | |
| Quantum DMG increases by | 160K88 |
Eidolons
 | Altruism? Nevertheless Tradable |  |
| The Follow-up ATK DMG from Jade's Talent increases by |
 | Morality? Herein Authenticated |  |
| When there are |
 | Honesty? Soon Mortgaged |  |
| Skill Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. Talent Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. |
 | Sincerity? Put Option Only |  |
| When using Ultimate, enables the DMG dealt by Jade to ignore |
 | Hope? Hitherto Forfeited |  |
| Ultimate Lv. +2, up to a maximum of Lv. Basic ATK Lv. +1, up to a maximum of Lv. |
 | Equity? Pending Sponsorship |  |
| While the "Debt Collector" character exists on the field, Jade's Quantum RES PEN increases by |
Light Cones
| Concepts | Rarity | Path | ATK | DEF | HP | Skill | Character Materials | |
 | Data Bank | 3 | erudition-class | 370.44 | 264.6 | 740.88 | Increases DMG dealt by the wearer's Ultimate by |   |
 | Passkey | 3 | erudition-class | 370.44 | 264.6 | 740.88 | After the wearer uses their Skill, additionally regenerates | |
 | Sagacity | 3 | erudition-class | 370.44 | 264.6 | 740.88 | When the wearer uses their Ultimate, increases ATK by |  |
 | The Birth of the Self | 4 | erudition-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | Increases DMG dealt by the wearer's Follow-up ATKs by |  |
 | Make the World Clamor | 4 | erudition-class | 476.28 | 396.9 | 846.72 | The wearer regenerates | |
 | Geniuses' Repose | 4 | erudition-class | 476.28 | 396.9 | 846.72 | Increases the wearer's ATK by |  |
 | The Seriousness of Breakfast | 4 | erudition-class | 476.28 | 396.9 | 846.72 | Increases the wearer's DMG by | |
 | Today Is Another Peaceful Day | 4 | erudition-class | 529.2 | 330.75 | 846.72 | After entering battle, increases the wearer's DMG based on their Max Energy. Each point of Energy increases DMG by | |
 | Night on the Milky Way | 5 | erudition-class | 582.12 | 396.9 | 1164.24 | For every enemy on the field, increases the wearer's ATK by | |
 | Before Dawn | 5 | erudition-class | 582.12 | 463.05 | 1058.4 | Increases the wearer's CRIT DMG by | |
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403 responses to “Jade”
Hoyo did jade dirty man, Firefly gets gallagher, xueyi & misha for 4* & RM on alternate banner while jade gets Serval, Natasha & Asta.
Missed opportunity to put QQ or Tingyun
Hype for Jade! It time to collect some taxes.
jade is the worst limited because unlike moc our herta and himeko already tier 0, not to mention himeko will slowly creep to her e6 for tier infinity, jade is the FIRST pf limited so she can’t be too strong, given the powercreep nature of this game we can just wait until herta and himeko become IRRELEVANT then pull for the FOMO errudition of that month to have 10x jade power- don’t mention argenti, the man is a better single target clear than even kingyuan, he’s not a pf only character
Funny when you mention the worst, at same time preaching Argentle and Midyuan, the one who have 0,5% usage on MoC or PF. CN community and Prydwen disagree with you. But keep yapping. I’m sure Arlan does more useful than both guys.
you need to read my point, i said both queen agodti and kingyun can clear single target contents, last time i check both e6s5 king and queen can 0 cylce moc while e6s5 jade can’t even clear moc because her mutiplier has no single target bonus, that made king and queen a full character and jade only a half character. Now to move to arlan, he is a 4 star so his max performance can only be compared to an E0 5 star, he is at 1/6 power of king and queen, but im sure 1hp arlan can beat jade to unconsious coma with just a march shield on. NOW for the absolute winning debate, i heard SUNDAY will come in seven month! half a year! i will commit seppuku if his power is not atleast 5x jade for being late born for half a year
Make Jade great again.
PREACH!
Why did it change for you to say that ?
This is same thought about Topaz, who majority thought she’s gonna crack dps but also can support other FuA. I guess it goes both ways. No other hunt unit give boost 50% dmg and no other erudition unit give free 30 spd on other unit. Meanwhile, some ppl impressed the dmg deal by Aventurine as a sustain, which is weird to have that mindset, at least that’s what i thought.
Bet your asses she will be good with Yunli. They didn’t touch her that much because they already are set on their plans with her.
Yunli, as a destruction unit, will most likely want HP reduction. That HP reduction thing on Jade wasn’t just a random addition. They already know they will pair them.
Jade and Yunli would what Topaz and Ratio are but in Aoe.
Don’t roll for Jade. She will be power creep in two patches from now. All characters you roll is a waste of jades. They will all be power creept and render useless the very next patch.
Did I do the doom posting right?
I’m so proud of you
Very convincing, I am no longer pulling Jade and am handing her LC over to our Gigalord, QingQue.
Bravo
Very next patch?! Come on! Don’t distract yourselves from the fact that she is already mid right now.
Wow…thanks,i think i’ll pull her e2 after this
I was excited for her at first, but now… she kinda looks eeeh.
What do you think is better, wearing atk boots or spd boots with 134 spd?
Since most of her charges come from her partner + the 50% action advance, attack boots will probably end up being better.
Since she is SP positive, if you want to use her as a hypercarry, you can pair her with bronya easily so yeah, if you use her as subdps or as hypercarry main dps the best option is atk% boots. I say bronya and not sparkle since i think sparkle would go better as a support for a dual “monoquantum” team with dps (seele or qinque), jade sparkle and sustain, but this is just a theory
hi guys I’ve been wanting to ask a question
I’m a quantum collector so obv I wanna wish on jade(dont know if I’ll actually get her tho, currently on 70 pity and 75 wishes and guranteed, wanna get both FF and jade)
why is jade being called like the worst limited 5 🌟 since release?? I do get what they mean to “some” extent but isn’t she (due to her role) future proof and kinda in the same situation as topaz in her release?
and why are people saying she being a PF character being bad? I mean a lot of people (myself included) struggle in PF so she is very good for them
i mean she’ll obv get more allies that she’d work good with and will be future proof.
I’m just asking since I’m confused???
Not really the worst. There is still Blade.
It’s not bad that she is good for PF, being ONLY good for PF is what is bad. Unless on a heavily invested team, she would struggle on MOC, and most likely going to struggle more on the upcoming new mode which favors strong focused attacks to 1 enemy. Her true value lies on stages with more enemies both in an instance and in the entire fight, thus PF.
What is worse if you think about it is that, even if she is only good for PF, she will still struggle on some of it. Just like now, if she is already available right now, she would struggle on this PF that prefers DoTs and has almost no quantum weak enemy.
As for future proofing, the only thing I am seeing is a FuA-centric Destruction unit powercreeping her. One that may be good on not only PF but in MoC and/or the upcoming new mode as well. For now, she doesn’t even work that well with Topaz and Ratio and is just a moderate improvement to either Himeko/Herta in their partnership.
As the number 1 Jade enjoyer around these parts, I do think it’s a bit much to call her the worst one but she does have issues.
She excels in PF nobody can deny that and will likely continue to for a long time. But it’s the fact that as soon as the number of enemies is reduced, her performance tanks drastically since her charges are based on enemies hit per attack. E1 fixes this by giving her more charges, but eidolons are a luxury and should never be considered when discussing a character’s viability (and reliance on one is a bit of a problem in and of itself).
It is the nature of Erudition to excel in AoE and perform worse outside. However, the other 2 Erudition units we got, King Yuan and Argenti, have things in their kits that allow them to circumvent that to a degree and while they aren’t topping the charts anytime soon they aren’t deadweight either. Jade kind of is regardless of who her partner is as you could simply remove her and put a harmony or debuffer instead for likely better results. She has synergy with Blade, but again you could always just do Blade/Jingliu instead. Or Blade hypercarry.
Perhaps like you said one day we’ll get a partner for her that skyrockets her, but as it stands right now she sadly leaves much to be desired and it’s sad her only buffs were minor and didn’t fix any of the issues. They want her to be a PF exclusive which is fine but it’s still a bit disappointing.
I still love her and prefer her to Firefly so I’m still gonna do some random shenanigans in MoC just for shits and giggles tho. It’s a game after all and I can already full star it so it ain’t like I’m losing anything 😀
Shame on Hoyo they put the vs. elite compensation into an eidolon. Should have been added into the base kit.
I agree. I would have even accepted if she had it base kit and E1 improves it further (or a further eidolon). Alas…
Hey hey. We all enjoy Jade. For we need jades to roll for characters.
Jade isnt gamebreaking but calling her the worst 5* is simply hyperbole.
IMO there are 3 criterias to judge a character as future proof.
1. Flexibility (Ability to be run in different team comps/have different roles in different teams/different modes)
2. Scaleability (Base ability scaling + how much content/enemies going forward will benefit the character)
3. Abuse potential (Characters that “abuse” mechanics or have “infinite” potential dmg ceilings but requires certain conditions)
Usually when a character meets 2 of the criterias, i think its really worth to build (If what you value is longevity). Its not a perfect system. iff a character has alot of potential but the support never comes, then its just bad.
For Jade, i would rate her flexibility as good, scaling as meh, but for abuse potential im not sure. There are two ways to make her gain more stacks and its either just have AoE stages or use her skill on a fast attacking Blast unit, which currently is just Blade. To me shes in the middle of Herta/Himeko (High abuse) and Argenti/JY (Low abuse).
Honestly i wish they added something to her skill where she gets an additional turn after using it (that also doesnt deplete her buff), so she can be a full SP Positive SubDPS. Her supportive kit rn has some clunks in it, that i wish they would buff more.
being PF character IS bad, because PF rules are too different to mirror and other game modes and PF-focused character may be useless in other modes. And Jade is. Sad, but fact.
About “worst limited 5*” – this may be true, but I’m not sure. She is the only true AOE quantum at least. In my opinion , Powercreep Yuan may be worse. Yes, her scales are too low to be a worthy damage source anywhere except PF, her damage output is strongly dependent on amount of enemies, BUT I believe in her place (PF) she’ll be OP.
Anyway, you can’t pull a character for a single mode. So she has one and only case of usage. Blade. In blade packs, she becomes a worthy support. But if you don’t have Blade, I think she don’t worth her jades.
I simped for her…
Jade isn’t the worst. Being a PF character isn’t bad.
Argenti allowed you to bruteforce every PF since conception to date. Screw all the dot blessings and blatantly Acheron favoured ones, just power through it with a strong character. Jade will do the same, but for quantum. I’m more than certain she’s not even tied to her own element, she’ll be fine. Boring but fine
Topaz and Blade are hard to top as terrible chars. Nuff said, stop bringing Jing Yuan into this, there’s never been a time he wasn’t doing fine. Mid, as in average is not a bad thing.
Unless it’s a Wind + Quantum Pure Fiction, Blade and Jade is not a good pairing. It works, but it isn’t meta. It’s like a duo dps Jingliu team, for funsies and nothing mroe
wdym bro topaz’s been carrying me for ages i will not accept this slander
Yeah as long as character can get the job done consistency. Well that good enough. Since hey, being able to 100% ensure you can clear the content. Means jades in the bank.
But who else are we gonna bring in in every single comparison regardless of whether it makes sense or not?
Long as you have the power of believing in yourself, anything is possible.
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1. I doubted she’s the worst. JY and SW still exist. And being PF character IS bad, because, let’s repeat, PF rules are too different and PF-focused character is bad anywhere else.
2. Argenti is the most boring character in the game. So I think he don’t need introduction. And yes, he is strong in PF, but weak anywhere else. Luckily, he has some single target damage from second ult. Jade don’t have even this little, so in her case the things are much worse.
3. Blade IS terrible. His damage is tiny compared to others and he can’t live without a good healer. And he have a problem with supports and LC. Maybe with Jade who gives him double stacks (or I’m wrong) he’ll become better, IDK.
4. Topaz was nothing on release,but now in fact she’s a tiny bit of self damage with big debuff from E1 and BiS for Ratio. Also, Robin is a Topaz direct buff, and well, it works. Topaz deals much more damage, but almost third part of it is not even hers.,
5. “Never was a time when JY wasn’t doing fine”
Being directly powercrept into ashes since acheron release is still a good time for him lol?
Also, I believe Jade really gives Blade double stacks, unless I can really call her a pair of sexy, but useless boobs.
1. SW is a bad pull value(Pela is better), not a bad character. You’ll definitely use her if you own Silverwolf, which cannot be said about most chars you mentioned, she’s just a hard upgrade to recommend. Just wait for another 5 star Nihility, she’ll be done for.
3. Blade has 0 survivability issues, even without a healer, you’re doing something wrong if he dies
4. Topaz is terrible. Any team you’d wanna slot Topaz in, Pela will do you better. Hypercarry Ratio is stronger. Pela boosts Robin’s damage as well. She only becomes stronger at E1S1… that’s… hardly a good feat. Ask anyone who enthusiastically uses Ratio and they’ll tell you the same thing. Topaz is the most bait thing in existence. I’m genuinely disgusted whenever a content creator is pushing her, blatant misinformation spreading. Topaz NEEDS Robin, NOT the other way around.
5. Whenever there was Lightning weak content avaiable, Jingyuan was able to pull his weight. The current MoC for instance, Jingyuan has a cheaper 0 cycle than IL. Louder for those in the back, An E0S0, Jingyuan with just an E0 Robin, can 0 cycle the current MoC. IL CANNOT DO THAT, so much for being a weak character.
To further add onto this, JingYuan should outperform Acheron in Pure Fiction, giving value in his sheer universality. Unfortunately hoyo’s been releasing specific blessings to buff Acheron (2 months later btw), and they keep adding those debuffing dogs. He’s simply in an unfair comparison
Nah, even when the blessing in PF isn’t flavorable towards Acheron, she still outperforms Jing Yuan regardless.
The ongoing PF has increased difficulty than ever before, mobs here have even higher HP than the MoC mobs and the elites can cause painful damage that you must bring a sustainer. All units except for the DoT comp equally suck, not even Acheron is an exception. She won the contest because she is an optional 3rd member of the DoT comp, that’s it.
It’s funny because due to a likely skill issue on my end, my Himeko/Herta was able to max point one side in PF4 but the dot duo couldn’t even in a dot blessing. I felt like crying xD
Silver Wolf is not that bad of a character. Given she can ensure Ratio can always does his follow up attack. Unlike Topaz. Where yeah, your not getting that 100% follow up attack from her. Which given we are having a upcoming mode that wants you to weakness break the bosses. That can allow one to have mono Quantum on one side and a break effect team on the other. To always ensure they have the right weakness ready. For Fun fact. SIlver Wolf value, comes not just from her ultimate defense shred but also the debuffs and weakness implant she can create, that lowers the enemy resistance to a elemental type as well. So a enemy resistance to say Quantum, goes from 40% to only 20%. That big difference. Throw in Seele in her buff state and it like the enemy has no resistance at all and the Quantum weakness, ensures Seele gets a even bigger benefit from the Quantum set.
Now when it comes to pure fiction. Yeah your not going want to use Silver Wolf here. Tingyun, Pela, things that can help get ultimate back or even say aoe would be much better
Nunu Nana
Yeah my Himeko and Herta are far from being the best build. A good support to keep them alive and a e1 Robin, was enough to get max score from one side. My other team just had to get the bare min amount of points, 20,000 to get max rewards from the current pure fiction. heck don’t think any of my teams were able to make good use of the current benefits. Was able to get that 60k score, using teams that were clearly not favored this round.
Waifu Inviligator
1. Errr… NO. Let’s talk about average mirror, where you have three targets. And guess what? SW is worse than Pela! Because Pela’s Res Shred is just bigger in three targets, not even talking about 5!
Her main gimmick – weakness application – just doesn’t work, because, funnily, every single new dps does so in their kit, and also, you’d never want to build a team with
1. certain type characters
2. DEF SHREDDER IN THE TEAM (They are much less valuable for anyone but acheron than classic support)
3. You must have a decent amount of SP, it’s not easy.
And yeah, nobody uses her, nobody will pull for her. She badly works even with Acheron, because SW is single target and Acheron is AoE. Even Ratio don’t need her. Balanced game.
3. OBJECTION! Bullshit. Please read Blade’s mechanics. He uses much more HP than he can heal himself, passive as a healing source is not stable and heals only 25%. Ult sets to 50%, right, but you NEVER want it to be used like this. So if you count and sum, he uses 70% oh his HP on basics and E to deal 25 from passive, and even using his ult to heal your HP will never be full. In the end, you always end up on 1 hp in the long run, and I remind I calculated it without mentioning enemies will attack him too. And like that his damage also falls even harder.
I used Blade on release and I had no Luocha. It was a huge, giant, awful pain in my ass.
4. I love topaz, maybe top 3 hsr waifu in my opinion. Maybe you’re right, but I can’t say for sure. in terms of FuA team buffs she’s better than Pela you mentioned. I don’t think she’s as weak as you say. Interesting character with interesting mechanics, but who cares if her scales are nothing.
5. Also bullshit, people up here already answered. Acheron is stronger than JY anywhere and in any case. Also, JY is not even a PF character, his LL – main damage source – is far too slow and in my opinion JY is just a mistake. Or just powercreep is here.
IL is a character weak in PF because of her mechanics, nothing more. They just made a mode where he can’t be played. But her’s OP anywhere else, so being “Non-PF” character is much better than being “PF” character, because, let’s repeat, PF is a single mode and the game has much more.
Pela does not offer a res shred unless she is e4 and only then, it when she uses her skill and only for ice dps. SIlver Wolf offers a 20% resistance shred to the weakness she plants on a foe. So if she puts down a ice weakness, she lowers that foe 40% ice resistance down to 20%. Which on top of that can lower all resistances by 7.5%. Pela does not have better Res shred. Did you mean defense shred? For res shred and defense shred are two different things. Which yeah, like Pela is better for aoe defense shred needs.
which the resist shred is why Mono teams exist. For Silver offers a bigger resistance shred. Along with ensuring a wide range of teams can easily weakness break a foe. Which given we have a upcoming mode focus on weakness breaking. Silver Wolf value is going to go up. When it comes to Silver target or a boss with weak adds that don;t matter at all. Silver Wolf is better. Ultimate last three turns. Higher defense shred. Every attack they do, can land bugs that can lead to more debuffs. Which also did you read the kits of the break effect dps? They don’t lower res shred. A foe that has 40% resistance to physical, is still going to have that, even after weakness is slap on top of them. Unlike Silver Wolf. Like my god. Read the character blood kit. Also it not every dps. Just the new break dps. Like yeah Pela can in certain cases be better than Silver Wolf. yet to make Silver Wolf look bad, you forget or just pretend certain parts of her kit don’t exist. She is not as bad as you are making her out to be.
We have had so many five star nihility characters release and none of them have put Silver Wolf out of a job yet.
Doom and gloom has been proven to be wrong time and time again. Making me doubt it greatly. Given ah yes all the old dps suck and can’t get the job done. Cue Seele one of the oldest dps still zero cycling memory of chaos. At this point. I just seen claims of x character is going to fall out or become worthless. Yet they still remain strong. I will need to see it to believe it.
Show of hands. Does anyone really believe a character is suddenly going to be render useless out of the blue or be power crept as the kids like to say these days? Given how often these claims are proven to be false time and time agian?
Bruh, did you forget mono Quantum exists? You know, Silver wolf being a key member there.
Aww, sorry, def shred, not res shred.
Well… All your text is countered by one argument: look at her pickrate.
Also, mono quantum is weak. It’s a team of four event 5*, and either you have an enemy without quantum, and you apply it on every elite you want to fight, which is bad, because you’re lacking of SP even with sparkle, because you’re playing QQ or my poor Seele, or enemy already has quantum, and RM or any other support is like two times stronger in that case. The amount of problems you need to handle to use weakness application is giant, meanwhile modern cores just do it by their common actions. SW is mechanically and morally dead, there are too many problems in her proper realisation, and even like that her def and red shred don’t give you more value than modern harmonies. Her buffs are not enough. I know, SW is “sexy gamer girl” and you won’t give up defending her, but look at her tiers and pickrate. HSR in current condition just don’t need her.
Bruh. How did you miss that Silver Wolf is just a tiny version of Bronya. Which not everyone here likes a unit due to their looks. Like that a strawman. Dude you do know there is tier list that put Silver Wolf on the top. Like you do know how bad that point is? Of just go look at the tier list. With how many tier list exists out there. I could easily find something that puts x character on top. If I want to make Acheron look like the best thing ever, I will go to prydwen. You know the site which rework their whole tier system just to favor her. Which dude. If we are talking elite enemies. Without knowing the build of the dps. Unless they are one shooting these elites. There is no need to weakness implant every single turn. That just wasting skill points. You would want to weakness implant the foe, when you going to switch to targeting them soon, not waste skill points and have the debuff fall off before you even target them. Like dude, your never going to have any skill points if your using Qq which also relays on rng, they lack consistency. Which if your using Qq, she is aoe. Would you even have enough time to weakness implant every single Foe? Would they even be still be alive?
Which the weakness of Silver Wolf rng, is relaying on team building. You know, the reason some people dislike Firefly. She has one clear best team and is not the most flexible in terms of supports. Silver Wolf is the other way around, she relays on you having lots of different characters of many different element types. Which also Silver Wolf, can put out decent damage if you make a break build for her. That does relay on her being the one to break the enemy. Which is something people might like from a character. Being simple and easy to build. Which is why some like Firefly. She doesn’t have to worry about that many stats. Which the one she does want, tend to be a bit more common and easier to get. Over the dreaded crit rate crit damage. Rng gods help you, if you need speed as well on top of that crit rate, crit damage. Not to forget some decent attack as well.
Momo Quantum does relay on alot of limited characters. Which the benefit to this team is, you can take it into anything and clear the content. Which is the main benefit of it. A simple easy team you can slap into anything and get results. Which defense shred last I look stacks. Which is part of the benefit of that team. get the full benefit from the Quantum set, for 20% defense shred. Which stacks with other sources. like Silver Wolf’s defense shred. Which Silver Wolf can use the penacony set to boost the damage of the others in the party. Due to being the same element. Turning them into a mini buffer.
Which you know Mei is a very old harmony character right? Sparkle is more modern then her. Like what do you mean by modern? This game is barely a year old. Kind of hard to guess what you mean by that term.
Like dude. Someone debating against you, even said yeah in cases of aoe pela would be better. Yet your just labeling them as lol enjoy Waifu and can’t be reason with. Which is a strawman. Like how is someone going. Yeah in certain cases Pela is better. Is just a insane Waifu lover? Dude. They even when aoe stuff Pela is more favorable. Single target or with weak adds that don’t matter. Silver Wolf is more ideal. Like how is that someone being a crazy Waifu lover? Saying that yeah, Silver Wolf is more single target focus and Pela is more suited for aoe? No bruh the truth is your a fucking asshole who pretends to be reasonable. Just so you can insult others and avoid having to make any counter points. No one has said Silver Wolf is the best character ever. No one has said you will always want to use Silver Wolf over x character. No people have pointed out, sometimes Silver Wolf is more ideal, other times Pela is more idea. Maybe if you spend more time reading, over fapping to your Waifu Mei, you could see that. For oh yeah why did I do that? Just to show how easy it is to claim someone is a crazy Waifu lover blinded by their love for a character, without any proof. How does it feel to have your own piss poor tactics be against you, mr I fap to topaz on rule 34?
Aw-aw-aw.
Bro, your text is really hard to read.
“Tier list says nothing”
– Bullshit. HSR is easy game with easy gameplay and easy team building. Power level of every character is clear and obvious. I can clearly say: “JY is a useless piece of poop because of slow damage source and weak AOE damage. Also he’s totally powercrept into ashes. That is why he’s B tier.” Or “Acheron’ s damage is madness and she’s easy to build, that’s why she’s SS.” And I will be absolutely right, because there are NO like hidden interactions or team problems. Also I can clearly say “SW is a single target debuffer with almost useless in modern meta weakness implantation and a ton of problems and conditions to be realized. It’s not that she’s weak, but modern HSR just don’t need her. And if Pela is A tier, SW is B tier, because Pela is just better in almost any case.”
Yes, the content creators need to show hsr as “fair and balanced game”, so they will manipulate facts, etc. But still the list can show the truth, because HSR system is too easy to understand and count.
Also, I was talking about pickrate, not tiers.
“(Something about target switching and QQ)”
Dude, QQ is stronger than Seele, especially in mono quantum you all fapping on. Deal with it. In the mirror we have more than one elite on field. And you’ll be had to apply weakness on all of them. That is why,
“MOMO quantum”: “You can slap on anything and get results”
True. But Acheron is better in that. And Boothill is better in that. And Firefly is better in that. Also, nobody prohibits you to pick a dps with element enemy is not weak at: if you’re strong enough, he’ll still slap on it and get results.
And yeah, Seele and QQ’s SP usage is not that different, believe me, I’m playing Seele a lot. Seele may use even more than QQ if you’re lucky.
You can use Penacony on Sparkle and it will be better, because she needs ER.
RM is a broken bitch and if you love her, please, stop skipping dialogs and read her quest. And she’s broken, because 50% break efficiency is insane. And yeah, if enemy has built-in quant,you’ll obviously want any support instead of SW. Even TY will be better.
I never told being waifu gamer is “bad”. Just if you play waifu, don’t try to complain about SW’s power. I myself play Topaz, even if she’s weak, and my main team is not really meta DOTs, any questions? Just I don’t shout “TOPAZ IS STRONG!!!”, because I understand it’s just not true.
Please, somebody, ban this little kid for offence. The fact you’re flaming on me just makes the things worse for you, because it’s just a game, and you show yourself as an idiot saying this to a random passerby.
and, for the other part of your post…
you are slated to get Firefly in your next two multis, probably the next one. you will have, at minimum, 55, wishes left after that.
I typically get enough jades every patch cycle to hit pity twice or more. She is the second banner, so you have the whole time to accumulate. I have been getting the star rail pass and the battle pass (I have my s5 qq lc, so I can stop getting the bp now.). your current wish stash is enough to not need those.
you are well on track to getting both.
It’s just like back then with Topaz. Jingliu took all the time and resources from the beta that they forgot Topaz was there.
A full company can’t divide their attention between TWO characters lol.
It’s honestly pathetic how much they bend over for Firefly. Completely leaving in the dust Jade, 2 relics sets which no one wants, releasing another two relics and carefully meddling them so that ONLY FIREFLY can use them, because screw Boothill or future break DPSes
It’s depressing ;_;
Yeah I wish we had a more flexible break set. Rather than being good for only one character and maybe her supports.
For lets face it. relic grinding is a pain in the ass. Having more sets that can be flexible and good on a number of different characters, rather than just one or two. Would be amazing. For I could build up more of my characters to a decent degree. Rather than just being stuck with one well build character and the rest having crappy builds.
Future break DPS will have superbreak. Boothill just got the short end of the stick of coming out before they realize they should’ve made superbreak a bigger thing.
… I was expecting the follow up set that would be released with her to be good.
then they changed it to be useful to literally no one.
Just like with Topaz, they already have plans for her.
Wait and see how she pairs up great with Yunli