 | Concepts | Cipher |
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| Voie |  La Nihilité | |
| Types |  Quantique | |
| Matériaux de personnage |  308K 15 15 65 15 | |
| Matériau de Trace | 3M 1841 6956 13958 12 8 | |
| Histoire | À Dolos, la cité déchue des bandits, trois cents roublards règnent en maîtres et toute la population est à leur merci. Ô Ciphéra, célèbre voleuse aux pieds agiles et Héritière chryséenne qui se joue de la flamme divine de la Ruse, cours ! Que tes mensonges, portés par le vent, parcourent le monde entier… « Vous pensez pouvoir me duper ? C’est beau, l’espoir ! » |
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| Niveau | ATQ | DÉF | PV | VIT | Chances de coup critique | DGT CRIT | Provocation | Énergie | Matériaux de personnage |
| 1 | 87.12 | 69.3 | 127 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | |
| 20 | 169.88 | 135.13 | 247 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | 40005 |
| 20+ | 204.73 | 162.85 | 298 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | |
| 30 | 248.29 | 197.5 | 361 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | 800010 |
| 30+ | 283.14 | 225.22 | 412 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | |
| 40 | 326.7 | 259.88 | 475 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | 1600063 |
| 40+ | 361.55 | 287.6 | 526 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | |
| 50 | 405.11 | 322.25 | 589 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | 4000097 |
| 50+ | 439.96 | 349.97 | 640 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | |
| 60 | 483.52 | 384.62 | 703 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | 80000620 |
| 60+ | 518.36 | 412.34 | 754 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | |
| 70 | 561.92 | 446.99 | 817 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | 160K935 |
| 70+ | 596.77 | 474.7 | 868 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 | |
| 80 | 640.33 | 509.36 | 931 | 106 | 5% | 50% | 100 | 130 |
Compétence
 | Je t'aurai un jour - ATQ normale | Cible unique |
| Régénération d'énergie : 20 | |
| Rupture de faiblesse : Cible unique : 30 | |
| Inflige des DGT quantiques équivalents à Inflige des DGT quantiques mineurs à un ennemi unique. | |
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| Rupture de faiblesse : Cible unique : 60 / Propagation : 30 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| A A de fortes chances de réduire les DGT infligés par un ennemi unique et les cibles adjacentes. Augmente l'ATQ de Cipher, et inflige des DGT quantiques à un ennemi désigné unique et des DGT quantiques mineurs aux cibles adjacentes. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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 | Bien à toi, la chatte voleuse fantôme ! - Ultime | Propagation | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Régénération d'énergie : 5 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Rupture de faiblesse : Cible unique : 90 / Propagation : 60 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Inflige des DGT quantiques équivalents à Inflige des DGT quantiques et des DGT réels équivalents à un certain pourcentage de la valeur actuellement enregistrée par le talent à une cible ennemie unique. D'autre part, inflige des DGT quantiques mineurs et des DGT réels équivalents à un certain pourcentage de la valeur enregistrée par le talent à une cible ennemie unique et aux cibles adjacentes. Les DGT réels sont répartis entre toutes les cibles de la capacité. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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 | L'Hospitalité à la dolosienne - Talent | Cible unique | ||||||||||||||||
| Régénération d'énergie : 5 | |||||||||||||||||
| Rupture de faiblesse : Cible unique : 60 | |||||||||||||||||
| Si aucune cible ennemie sur le champ de bataille n'est affectée par Patron, Cipher applique immédiatement l'état Patron à la cible ennemie sur le champ de bataille avec les PV max les plus élevés. Lors de l'utilisation de la compétence ou de l'ultime, la cible principale devient le Patron. L'état Patron ne s'applique qu'à la dernière cible touchée. Lorsque le Patron est attaqué par d'autres cibles alliées, Cipher lui lance immédiatement une ATQ de suivi, infligeant des DGT quantiques équivalents à Dans l'état Patron, Applique l'état Patron à une cible ennemie unique. Lorsque les coéquipiers de Cipher attaquent le Patron, Cipher lance une ATQ de suivi sur la cible, ce qui lui inflige des DGT quantiques. Cet effet peut être déclenché Cipher enregistre les DGT infligés au Patron par les alliés. Le compteur de DGT est réinitialisé après avoir utilisé l'ultime. | |||||||||||||||||
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 | Attaque |
| Régénération d'énergie : 0 | |
| Rupture de faiblesse : Cible unique : 30 | |
| Attaque un ennemi et réduit sa robustesse au type correspondant en entrant en combat. | |
 | Chat botté - Technique | Renforcement |
| Régénération d'énergie : 0 | |
| Rupture de faiblesse : 0 | |
| Bénéficie de la Bénédiction de Zagreus pendant Lorsque vous engagez le combat alors que la Bénédiction de Zagreus est active, Cipher inflige des DGT quantiques équivalents à Obtient la Bénédiction de Zagreus. Lorsque cette bénédiction est active, Cipher est indétectable par les ennemis et elle obtient des consommables aléatoires en se rapprochant d'eux. Lorsque vous engagez le combat, Cipher inflige des DGT quantiques mineurs à tous les ennemis. | |
Traces
 | Foulées empyréennes |
| Nécessite l'élévation de personnage 2 | |
| Lorsque la VIT de Cipher est supérieure ou égale à | 500031 |
 | Augmentation des DGT quantiques (Augm. des DGT quantiques) |
| Nécessite l'élévation de personnage 2 | |
| Les DGT quantiques augmentent de | 500036 |
 | Augmentation de VIT (VIT) |
| Nécessite l'élévation de personnage 3 | |
| La VIT augmente de | 1000033 |
 | Augmentation des chances d'appliquer des effets (Chances d'app. des effets) |
| Nécessite l'élévation de personnage 3 | |
| Les chances d'appliquer des effets augmentent de | 1000033 |
 | Trois cents roublards |
| Nécessite l'élévation de personnage 4 | |
| Cipher enregistre | 20000511 |
 | Augmentation de VIT (VIT) |
| Nécessite l'élévation de personnage 4 | |
| La VIT augmente de | 2000054 |
 | Augmentation des DGT quantiques (Augm. des DGT quantiques) |
| Nécessite l'élévation de personnage 5 | |
| Les DGT quantiques augmentent de | 4500033 |
 | Augmentation de VIT (VIT) |
| Nécessite l'élévation de personnage 5 | |
| La VIT augmente de | 4500033 |
 | Habileté céleste |
| Nécessite l'élévation de personnage 6 | |
| Les DGT critiques infligés par l'ATQ de suivi du talent augmentent de | 160K811 |
 | Augmentation des chances d'appliquer des effets (Chances d'app. des effets) |
| Nécessite l'élévation de personnage 6 | |
| Les chances d'appliquer des effets augmentent de | 160K88 |
 | Augmentation des DGT quantiques (Augm. des DGT quantiques) |
| Nécessite un personnage de Niv. 75 | |
| Les DGT quantiques augmentent de | 160K88 |
 | Augmentation de VIT (VIT) |
| La VIT augmente de | 25002 |
 | Augmentation de VIT (VIT) |
| Nécessite un personnage de Niv. 80 | |
| La VIT augmente de | 160K88 |
Eidolons
 | Lire les sourires |  |
| Les DGT enregistrés par Cipher passent à |
 | Dextérité à toute épreuve |  |
| Lorsque Cipher touche un ennemi, il y a |
 | Insaisissable |  |
| Niv. de l'ultime +2, jusqu'au Niv. Niv. de l'ATQ normale +1, jusqu'au Niv. |
 | Porte de sortie |  |
| Après qu'une cible alliée attaque le Patron, Cipher lui inflige des DGT quantiques additionnels équivalents à |
 | Rusée et agile tel le goupil |  |
| Niv. de la compétence +2, jusqu'au Niv. Niv. du talent +2, jusqu'au Niv. |
 | L'inconnue aux pattes de velours |  |
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| Concepts | Rareté | Voie | ATQ | DÉF | PV | Compétence | Matériaux de personnage | |
 | Néant | 3 | nihility-class | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | Les chances d'appliquer des effets du porteur augmentent de |   |
 | Boucle | 3 | nihility-class | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | Augmente les DGT infligés par le porteur aux ennemis ralentis de | |
 | Ombre cachée | 3 | nihility-class | 317.52 | 264.6 | 846.72 | Après avoir utilisé sa compétence, la prochaine ATQ normale du porteur inflige des DGT additionnels équivalents à |  |
 | Bonne nuit et dors bien | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | Les DGT infligés par le porteur augmentent de |  |
 | Les yeux de la proie | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | Augmente les chances d'appliquer des effets du porteur de | |
 | Résolution brillante | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | Lorsque le porteur touche un ennemi qui n'est pas déjà piégé, il y a | |
 | Point d'orgue | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | Augmente l'effet de Rupture du porteur de | |
 | Ce n'est que partie remise | 4 | nihility-class | 529.2 | 330.75 | 846.72 | Après utilisation de son ATQ normale ou de sa compétence, le porteur inflige des DGT additionnels équivalents à | |
 | Avant que la mission du tutoriel commence | 4 | nihility-class | 476.28 | 330.75 | 952.56 | Augmente les chances d'appliquer des effets du porteur de |  |
 | Au nom du monde | 5 | nihility-class | 582.12 | 463.05 | 1058.4 | Les DGT du porteur sur les ennemis souffrant de malus augmentent de | |
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94 responses to “Cipher”
so basically a good pela replacement for acheron teams, but is not that f2p friendly
i decided to use glamoth, and omg my speed is like 155 + 14 from traces… JUST ONE MORE MAN ONE MORE T-T
1. i have acheron e1s1 and her team is with pela and silverwolf as the nihility characters. would cipher be able to replace any of those two? and who should i keep if i do end up replacing one of them?
2. what relic sets (both 4pcs and 2pcs) would she be best using if we’re going with acheron team? idk if ill be able to go for s1 so i need sets for both possibilities (s0 and s1)
If you want Cipher for your Acheron team. You must get her S1, otherwise she won’t apply debuff with her basic attack, ult, and FuA, which slows down Acheron Ult stacks. IMO, currently Cipher (S1) is better than Silver Wolf for Acheron as Cipher can apply debuff to multiple enemies, but this could be changed after Silver Wolf gets her buff.
Neither does Pela apply debuff with every attack: at E0 she can only debuff with her ult, and at E4 her skill also gets a debuff. If Pela is generating stacks for Acheron, a good portion of it is probably from the Resolution lightcone, which Cipher can use to similar if not higher efficiency due to her higher speed and blast skill.
If we’re wondering what to do with multiple limited units with eidolons and limited LCs, we’re probably far away from worrying about Eidolongs on a 1.0 4*.
I forgot to mention this, but you could use Pioneer 4pc set on her and as for her planar, you can go Lushaka to support your first lineup team, or you can also use Inert Salsotto set for second option.
whats the build for her now, and what alternatives can she have for her lightcone, would welts cone work?
We can learn from Cipher’s Beta roller coaster ride.
Especially the ending.
Her V4 Buffed her a lot and then her V5 Nerfed her so hard it is ridiculus!
So HoYo doesn’t care.
First Catgirl!
Could have made so much money if she is OP.
If HoYo does this to a Female character, a sexy catgirl nontheless that could have made them so much more money, then clearly no character is safe from HoYo’s Nerf Hammer during Beta Phases!
man
No one cares about her personal damage. At E2S1 she multiply your entire team damage by 141% and at E0S1 by 99%. She is by far the best DPS support in the entire game. Her personal damage (which will get powercrept eventually) is just a cherry on top.
lol, can’t tell if this is a joke or not
You do realise even someone like Bronya, by virtue of doubling your actions (100% AV) theoretically doubles your output. Now in practice ultimates do exist, damage windows, but Bronya does more than churn out turns as well
Now I wouldn’t call Bronya a particularly high amp support and even she has amp by your quote higher than Cipher. How does that compare to the likes of Robbin, Tribbie and soonish Cyrene & Cerydra
Dude thanks for doomposting, now Im sure Cypher will be good since you are always wrong, every single beta you dont miss.
how do you block people on this site
what relic set would she wear? would it be more spd focused
base 106 + traces 14 + boots 25 = 145; She needs 25 more speed for 170+ which is 10-13 substat rolls.
Fairly doable, 2 or 3 rolls per non-boots piece. 2pc speed bonuses will knock off 2 rolls. If you decide to go for 2pc bonuses, do cavern relic sets, since the planar speed options are worth as much as the cavern sets, plus wasted effects.
If you choose to do only speed substats (do this if sig LC), you’ll probably want Pioneer Diver, maybe Genius if Cipher is the carry or ran with Pela/SW
For planars, your pick of Glamoth, Duran, or Izumo. PCCE won’t be worth it at 39% ehr
Basically, you will want her to reach 170 SPD.
she has 120 SPD by default with her traces, her LC will be a great help as it gives 18% of SPD to wearer.
So if you plan on getting it you just need to reach 145 SPD, the LC will add up the SPD to 170.
For 4-PC I am hesitating between “Scholar Lost in Erudition”, “The Wind-Soaring Valorous” or “Genius of Brilliant Stars”. But I might take the last one considering she can only launch her follow up once per turn. Plus with all DEF debuffs + Damage increases she would seem to launch heavy attacks with it.
For 2-PC I’m going with “Inert Salsotto” which will buff both ult and follow-up. “Duran, Dynasty of Running Wolves” seems to be good too as it gives a higher buff for the follow up and also extra CRIT DMG but again she only launch the follow up once per turn so the stack would be long to take.
Though with how speedy she is she could reach it fast :/ We’ll see.
Feet’s main stat will definitely be SPD.
For Body I would recommend CRIT DMG, considering her first Trace gives her 50% Crit Chance if she does reach 170 SPD.
As for Planar Sphere and Rope I personally will go Quantum DMG and ATK%.
As for the substats, I will go with SPD, CRIT DMG, ATK% and CC. EHR could be helpful but 120 (+10 from traces) default EHR seems enough to me. I’ll see when I can grabby hands her when she is out. Might replace some CC with EHR if it is the case.
Then again that is my build, it may be not perfect in the end, you’re free to do the one that suits you better and compare. We’re here to discuss !
For relic sets, I think there are some more options you aren’t considering.
Pioneer Diver of Dead Waters 4-pc gives unconditional damage% and crit rate+damage, plus more crit stats if you apply a debuff, which is easy if you use skill or have her signature. It’s almost certainly worse than Genius if you are facing quantum-weak enemies, but can be more consistent otherwise.
Similarly, I would say Duran seems quite good for her, but for likely less damage you can pick up Glamoth, which has a speed requirement she easily activates. It has no ramp-up time for its damage bonus. However, if you use Cipher with another follow-up unit (Aventurine/Feixiao/Ratio/Topaz etc.) then the Duran ramp-up time is probably not as bad as you are thinking.
The Scholar and Valorous sets seem to focus on her ultimate damage, which to me seems to be a pretty small amount of her total damage. Its multiplier is 120% to the main target, then 40% to the main target and adjacent targets, so at most a 240% multiplier. Her skill does more damage than her ultimate, so Scholar does at least seem like a decent choice, but I’m unsure about how frequently she ults, so I’m not sure how much value you get out of it. I’m estimating about every 4 turns? The Scholar/Sacerdos cavern is also very good, so its not too much of an opportunity cost to farm, especially compared to the Genius set.
I agree with your stat choices though. You probably don’t want too much Effect Hit Rate, but I would venture to guess that a few rolls would be nice to have for her light cones.
So let me get this straight. At E2S1, she inflicts 70% vulnerability (40% from talent and 30% from E2) and 24% defense shred. That is a direct +95% damage increase from the whole team (even more if there are other def shredders in the team). On top of that, she inflicts 24% minimum of true damage, which makes another 24% damage increase from the whole team through her Ult. That is a total of 119% of damage increase.
No other support unit is capable of multiplying your team’s damage as much as her. Usually harmony supports such as Sunday, Ruan Mei etc, are usually proving capable of increasing between 50% to 70%.
New best nihility for archeron e2?
You’re asking the wrong question. The real question is. Is Acheron the best DPS to put with Cipher. Sadly, it’s probably no.
Sure Cipher is BiS for Acheron. But Acheron is not BiS for Cipher. Though imma get round that coz well E6 Acheron.
Well it looks like my Acheron team is going to have the cat boy and cat girl supporting her.
Correction, it looks like your cat girl is going to have your cat boy and Acheron supporting her.
Maybe, maybe.
Not anymore. Nerfed back down the earth.
Doesn’t her cone make any Nihility into an Acheron support?
It would make them better at it depending on who, but most of them wouldn’t perform well enough to justify them being picked over the staples we already have. If you’re interested,.i can go more in depth, but it might be a bit of a read lol.
My Wish came true…. Cipher enjoyers won in v3. I could cry…. Damn these buffs are beautiful.
i feel bad instead: She give free “increase damage” at a6 instead of def reduction, She erode totally JQ niche and also she can no longer use 4* Silver Wolf Cone and 5* welt cone
Not necessarily. i get your sentiment, but Jiaoqiu’s niche is more so his ability to funnel Acheron Stacks. He still does that WAY better than her, especially with good spd and eagle set, on top of ult vulnerability and regular. Vulnerability is also better than def shred generally, and she can use Resolution to still get some of that def shred at %16. Welt’s light cone also can still be used lol nothing changed with that. Also i’m speculating but since she is really the only nihility character that actually interacts with
the spd stat directly, we may get another
4* option for her, like for Rappa and Boothill.
is she good enough to replace pela on my acheron team? my acheron team consists of sw, pela, and gallagher. i mean, im pulling her regardless bc she’s pretty and cool, but if she’s versatile then why not?
also what about the remembrance teams like castorice and aglaea? both of them are sharing rmc and i’d love to find a replacement other than the bird siblings
You should replace SilverWolf, not Pela. And with Silverwolf getting buffed literally next patrch, I can’t even say she’ll be an improvement.
Current Cipher isn’t that good, she’s going to be weaker than RMC in any of the teams you mentioned.
Ignore the other person, Cipher is absolutely better than Pela for Acheron. SW, even with the buffs, will not have the insane Acheron stack generation that Cipher provides.
yeah I think she can replace pela as long as they don’t change her A6 Trace