461 responses to “Авантюрин”

1. Has anyone calculated if it is possible to reach 4k defense using a 4-star light cone?

   With def body orb ,and rope?

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   • easily
     mine will reach 4800 (with def boots)

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2. would it be worth going for 3 broken keel on supports considering the bonus effect res from aventurine?

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   • hehe i was wondering the same

     probably yes, besides 10% crit dmg guaranteed it is also 10% more effect res added to already high eff res, eff res works best when stacked (till some limit) so it would be a pretty good defensive option as well i think

     just think how hard it is to hit debufs on bosses that have 50% eff res compared to 40 ones, its not just 10% harder

     i’ll probably try broken keel on topaz, aven and ruan for ratio

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3. So he just give 50% effect res just like that? wouldn’t broken keel really good for the whole team then?

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   • since his shield gave 50% EFFRES, then simply gave the other 3 supports (incl. Aven) with BK set. then any DPS you play witht his team free 30% CDM.

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4. S1 Moment if Victory (Gepard’s signature light cone) or S5 Divine Threads (forgotten hall 4-star light cone), do you think?

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   • you meant Destiny’s Threads Forewover ?
     I calculate with def rope with imaginary orb , Crit dmg body and speed boot with the relic i have so your result may differ.
     S1 moment fully activate will give : 3780 Def -> 42 crit rate and basic attack at 100 def * total dmg bonus(before defence) is 5800 dmg
     S5 Destiny’s Threads will give : 2850 Def -> 24 crit rate and basic attack at 100 def * total dmg bonus(before defence) is 5740 dmg

     S1 moment of victory has so high def and def% bonus to the point it beats that 48% dmg bonus from destiny threads and also give better shield and crit rate.
     And if you have full team Dmg Bonus buffer like raun mei or sparkle or robin then S1 moment of victory will win even more.

     same goes for any other 4 star LC from my calculation,
     except for This Is Me! S5 is very close and might even win a bit for ult dmg.
     or maybe Trend of the Universal Market for Archeron.

     Then again you may get higher S for Moment of victory as time goes on, At S2 and higher then it’s no contest.

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5. What would his best overall 4* LC be? I also love the lack of doomposting on here compared to te genshin one.

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   • His best 4 star light cone would be S5 Concert For Two but since it’s a Gacha LC you prob won’t be able to hit that unless you are already going for his sig. Off the top of my head you’ll probably be best off with the new MoC LC Destiny’s Threads at S5 but you will have to run a lot of DEF main stat pcs to make it work. This is Me! is a decent option for the high base defense and def% you get from its passive but it is a battle pass exclusive so superimposing it will be kinda expensive and take a long time.

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6. so, is “Unnerved” from his ult counts as debuff?
   and i’m guessing knight of purity palace is his BiS relic?

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   • Yes it is a debuff
     Knight for pure shielder, not for sub-dps hybrid builds

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     • what about the planar set? broken keel?

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       • I’d recommend salsotto for dmg or keel for support

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7. Would the “This is me!” LC be a good option for ULT DMG? Is it worth getting or should I go for other options?

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   • Not worth choosing over other BP options, I’d suggest getting S5 destiny’s threads if you have absolutely nothing else

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     • I see thank you, what about “Concert for Two”?

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       • If you can actually get it then yes, it’s pretty good
         If you want it S5 however… you’d probably get Aventurine’s signature first

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8. Thinking of creating a FUA team alongside my already partly made DOT team with Kafka, Black Swan, Ruan Mei and Fu Xuan (missed out on HuoHuo).

   I’ve got Clara but am still in the middle of building her, skipping Acheron in order to get Aventurine (hopefully to E1S1 if not E0S1 minimum). Also planning to get Robin whose coming out in 2.2 with at least her light cone and if lucky some Eidelons.

   Waiting for Topaz’ rerun – really bummed that I skipped her when she first came out. For the final slot, I’m thinking of building Yanqing who I got from losing some 50/50s. I’m leaning toward building him up rather than Dr Ratio since I’m gonna already have an imaginary unit with Aventurine, and hopefully Aventurine’s shields will be tanky enough so that Yanqing doesn’t lose any HP.

   Is this a good idea?

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   • they will all work and the idea is good.

     Aventurine’s BiS team comp is probably going to be something like : Aventurine – Dr.Ratio – Topaz – Ruan Mei or Pela.
     if you have Pela, i would suggest using her on this team and swap her out later for Robin once you get her.
     Topaz can be replaced by any harmony character for now or Silver wolf if you face an Elite or boss enemy.
     There is nothing wrong with having 2 imaginary charaters on one team, Dr. Ratio , from a consistency point of view will do much better then YanQing only because YanQing has a Capped 60% chance to trigger his FUA.

     For now your comp i would say would be : Aventurine – Clara – Dr.Ratio – Pela/Silver Wolf.
     Aventurine – Clara – YanQing – Harmony ( Preferably Asta ) or Pela
     Aventurine – Clara – Double Harmony or Mix of Harmony and Debuffer.

     I would personally drop Yanqing and build Ratio after Clara and Use Pela or Silver Wolf. if pela is not build or if you don’t have Silver Wolf then i would use Clara and what ever you have ATM till you have Topaz and/or Robin. then have the comp : Aventurine – Topaz (perferably at E1 or S1 or both) – Dr. Ratio – Robin.

     you can also go the Clara route with : Aventurine – Clara – Robin – Topaz ( E1 and S1 not needed ) but since you are going for S1 Aventurine i whould go with the former team comp for the highest damage output.

     One more thing, build and use who ever you want, it is still a game and you should play with whatever you have fun with, these are just my thoughts and what i think is going to perform best for the foreseeable future.

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9. can someone help me, would moment of victory (s1) actually be better than destiny’s threads forwoven(s5) for aventurine? would the build i use change depending on which lightcone i level?

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   • i would personally use Moment of victory, not only because the effect gives him more defense, but also because the base stats are way higher ( Destiny at 463 VS Moment at 595 def ), getting closer to that Def Cap for his trace makes choosing relics way easier and you can even swap out 1 maby even 2 relics for more damage.
     The effect RES on Destiny is also not that usefull because Aventurine gives his teammates 50% for free and he him self can resist CC.
     the extra taunt will also be usefull and the increased DEF on hit will again make him tankier.

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10. heya, is my aventurine still viable if I go for 4pc pioneer and an imaginary DMG sphere on salsotto? everything else is DEF mainstat, I don’t know if I can switch to a CDMG body (current CR without passive is 37.2)

    I’m planning on going for his signature LC, but would I be able to reach the 4K Defense requirement with two defense mainstats, all traces and his sigLC?

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    • almost possible, by my calculations, you need at least 21% def substat from your relics

      DEF Total = (Character Base DEF + LC Base DEF) * (1 + DEF%) + Flat DEF

      Your Aventurine Def (654.88 (aventurine base def) + 661.5 (aventurine lc base def) * (1+54%+54%+35%+40%) + flat def

      54% from def mainstat
      35% from traces
      40% from light cone

      183% def increase

      by the math, you have 3728 Def

      and need at least *21%* def substat from your relic

      if you can’t, just slap def% sphere, more beneficial this way because he can sustain better

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